July 30

The Glycemic Index and the Raw Food Diet

Filed under Questions & Answers by Frederic Patenaude



– Frederic’s Update

–  What’s Wrong With Eggs, Glycemic Index, and more questions answered


Today I’m answering your questions on the raw food diet, and more!

If you’d like to send me a question, just go to www.replytofred.com

Better yet, come to California this summer and meet myself and my team in person. The only raw event to attend this summer is the Vibrant Living Expo, on August 21-23, in Ft. Bragg, Northern California, organized by Cherie Soria and her team. I’ve attended many raw food events for the past 10 years and this one beats them all, hands down.


I will be there giving two lectures, and with a booth where you can meet me and get to chat a bit in person. Other lecturers include:

•    Dr. Doug Graham
•    Kevin Gianni
•    Howard Lyman (the Mad Cowboy)
•    Victoras Kulvinskas
•    John Robbins (author of “Diet for a New America”)
•    Matt Monarch & Angela Stokes
•    Don Weaver
•    Brian Clement
•    And many others

Get more information and sign up at www.rawfoodchef.com.

Other News and Announcements:

– A quick reminder: my friend Roger Haeske recently released an amazing program called the Savory Veggie Stews. If you think Green Smoothies were great, wait till you try this. This recipe system enabled me to totally eliminate my dinnertime salt and cooked cravings! After the Green Smoothie Revolution, I’m sure we’ll have a Veggie Stew revolution, thanks to this great new product by Roger. It’s launch week so you’re getting a better price if you order now, plus a bunch of freebies. Check it out here:


Probably the best week-long raw food seminar I ever attended to was Health & Fitness Week with Dr. Doug Graham. Imagine a week of exercising several hours a day with your own world-class trainer who takes you from where you are to where you want to be, and eating gourmet, organic low-fat raw food meals, and attending great lectures and entertainment every day for a week, while making new friends.

A lot of people can’t go to these events because of the price. At $4000, it is completely worth it, but a little out of budget for most people.

In any case, Doug recently sent me this note and asked me to pass it along, which I’m happy to do. The offer may already be over but there’s no harm in asking. Just contact him at www.foodnsport.com

My events usually run full, and they are the most fun when they are full. Often, they fill up WAY in advance. Already the 2010 fasting event is almost completely filled, with interns as well as fasters. But there is one drawback to filling early. The number of people who have to cancel, for one reason or another, invariably rises when people register 6-9 months in advance.
My summer events this year are no exception. We have had cancellations, and they came late. So, I am offering one really special deal to fill those spots.
$1000 rebate, given to you at the event, to the next three people that register for H&F, based on paying full price for this event. This means that no other discounts will apply, even those offered by FoodnSport.
$1500 rebate, given to you at the event, to the next three people that register for H&F plus either of the other two Sedro Woolley seminars, based on paying full price for each of these events. This means that no other discounts will apply, even those offered by FoodnSport.
$2000 rebate, given to you at the event, to the next three people that register for H&F plus both of the other two events, based on paying full price for each of these events. This means that no other discounts will apply, even those offered by FoodnSport.
Please, tell everyone you know. Give them the chance of attending.

Dr. Doug Graham

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papaya-clean-FD-lg.jpg.jpegPapaya Seeds

Aren’t you supposed to do things to get rid of parasites? I thought it was okay to eat things that occur in nature (such as papaya seeds) to cleanse your body of parasites, etc. So much to learn…now I’m REALLY confused….

ANSWER: The main problem and source of confusion that I see are when people are trying to use certain foods as *medicine* instead of what it should be used for: a source of nourishment.

If you make raw fruits and vegetables the main staples of your diet, you do not need to fear parasites under most circumstances. If you do this and find out you have parasites then maybe a natural or even allopathic remedy might be in order. Ask yourself though, why are you trying to medicate with food or drugs before you know there is a problem?

Would you take some aspirin every day, before you had a headache?

Would you take antibiotics every day, before you had an infection?

If not, then why do the same with foods that are clearly NOT foods but “remedies” (and often unproven ones).

Also, papaya seeds taste extremely bitter and spicy. If you enjoy eating them that way and can make an entire meal out of them, then go for it.

I know for sure that I couldn’t do that, and most other people couldn’t either.

If you want nourishment, eat the edible portion of the fruit. The rest is not meant for your consumption.

Eating 3000 Calories from Fruit

Hello. My language is not very good because I am from Poland but yes I’ll read all what did you send to me. I know that you are correct about fruits and vegetables. I was 6 years vegan now I am full raw and I see a lot positive things! I eat 2 meals per day because I know that my stomach need rest like others parts from my body. I found only one difficult thing: how to get 3000 or more calories from fruits only? I eat 7 to 10 bananas on my breakfast plus more fruits and greens then something similar 5h before I am going to sleep. I am very active I am running cycling and climbing and do a lot more exercises that why I want to know in which fruits is a lot calories!

ANSWER: To get 3000 calories a day I would personally recommend to work towards eating a 1500 calorie lunch as your main meal. Then breakfast only needs to be 500 calories and dinner could be around 1000 calories. That may seem like a lot of fruit at first, so you may want to start with 4 meals a day and then later reduce to two. The following are some high calorie fruits you could eat: mangoes, bananas, honeydew melon, figs, persimmons.

Chewing Dulse

I have some colitis and have had some bloody mucus when swallowing the juice from chewing dulse. How do I know I would be able to eat from a raw diet even if it is from juicing? Frank

ANSWER: The obvious solution is to avoid chewing dulse. Dulse contains too much salt to consume to eat as a regular food item.

Consuming Flax Seed Oil & Phyto-oestrogen

Hello I was hoping that you could forward this question to Fred. Well, I have been taking flax seed oil for some time, I am a male, and I was wondering since it is so high in phyto-estrogen, could this mess with a male’s fertility? Thanks again Best, Cedric

ANSWER: As you may know, I don’t recommend taking flax seed oil or ANY other type of oil for that matter as a supplement. Oil is a refined food, similar to white sugar or white flour. It’s also a highly concentrated fat. It is better to get your essential fatty acids from fruits and vegetables, and only eat limited quantities of overt fats like avocados. There could be other problems that could develop by consuming this oil regularly, such as the one you allude to. I do not think that it would be the only reason to avoid it, though.

Eating When Hungry?

U say to wait to eat till u feel hungry. It has been almost 24 hours since I last ate. I have not been hungry. Is this normal? Is it ok? Thx

ANSWER: In my book the Raw Secrets I described in detail the difference between true, genuine hunger and false, “appetite” or hunger. This was more to enable the reader to recognize these differences and be able to more accurately judge if the diet they are on is really working.

That being said, I don’t recommend waiting until you are absolutely, genuinely hungry every time before eating.

I recommend that you avoid all the foods and substances that trigger false hunger (such as salt, condiments, spices, sauces, etc.) and exercising daily to create a true demand for food. But once that’s done, eat at regular times, even if you are not ravenously hungry all the time. I find for myself that the most important thing to do to experience true hunger more often is to exercise regularly.

Fruit Addiction Problem?

Hi! I have been eating mostly raw for the past several months. I fell off the wagon and started eating cooked foods. I was overeating terribly to the point of extreme discomfort. I am finally back to all raw. However, I feel I have a fruit addiction problem. I get tired if I do not consume some fruit after 3 to 4 hours. I often find myself eating when I am not hungry or after 7 pm (which I never used to do). Can you make any suggestions? I know I am eating far too much fruit and subsequently too much sugar. I am angry with myself and have great trouble controlling my desires to eat more fruit. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

ANSWER: I find it funny that you use the term “fruit addiction”. If your body demands something does that mean you are “addicted”? Are all humans “addicted” to food because they need to eat it?

I seriously doubt that you are eating too much fruit. In fact, all of those symptoms are actually most likely caused by not eating ENOUGH fruit.

Essentially, I recommend eating enough fruit at one meal so you are satisfied for several hours afterwards. Since I do not know the details of your diet it would be hard for me to make any other suggestions.


People Advocating No Fruit & The Glycemic Index

I think you need to address the low-glycemic movement in the raw food world. Hippocrates and Tree of Life advocate little to no fruit to improve health. Why go with more fruits when these reputable health centers say no?

ANSWER: I do not find the glycemic index to be a very useful chart overall. Essentially, to create this index they measured the “average” blood sugar response in “average” people, after eating different types of food.

The key word is “average”.

The average person does not exercise, is overweight and eats a high fat diet. So the results of the glycemic index tables will only reflect how the average person reacts to food, not necessarily how a healthy person reacts.

That being said, it’s clear that some foods produce a higher glycemic response than others. This is where the glycemic index can be useful. For example, watermelon raises blood sugar much faster than apples. So it could be your food of choice when you are exercising, or after coming back from the gym, when you need to raise your blood sugar, after depleting it through exercise.

As for the centers you mention, I could go on and on about this and explain to you in detail why. Start by reading my “Shocking Report on the Fruit Controversy” at www.fredericpatenaude.com/fruitreport.pdf

I believe that the concept of eating little to no fruit to improve your health is an aberration. Literally every single truly reputable health professional on the planet recommends fruits and vegetables for health.

The following doctors and researchers also recommend a high-carbohydrate, low fat diet, based upon thousands and thousands of scientific studies:

•    Dr. T. Colin Campbell (China Study)
•    Dr. Douglas Graham (80-10-10 Diet)
•    Dr. Joel Fuhrman (Eat To Live, also a high-fruit diet)
•    Dr. John McDougall (McDougall Program, only 7% fat)
•    Dr. Dean Ornish (Ornish Program for heart disease)
•    Dr. Neal Barnard (From Physician Committee of Responsible Medicine)
•    Dr. Alan Goldhamer (The Pleasure Trap)
•    And many others

I do not doubt that people who visit the “low-fruit” centers you recommend experience health benefits. However, it is not necessarily because they are avoiding fruit. It is because of the other healthy changes they make from their previous lifestyle.

As I have demonstrated elsewhere, a low-fruit, 100% raw diet is a very HIGH fat diet. There is no credible evidence or research that encourages such a high fat diet.

It is also not possible to design a no-fruit, low fat 100% raw food diet.

What’s Wrong With Eggs

Dear Fred. Many times I asked the same question namely about eggs consuming. This is why I still reluctant to order your books. I am looking for natural human diet. Let’s ignore the controversial meat issue. But what wrong with eggs? Humans and apes always consume eggs. I am going 100% raw from the mid-August (my birthday). I desperately looking for answer. Yours faithfully. Tauy

ANSWER: It depends if you’re looking at it from an anthropological perspective or a health perspective. Some people try to guess what the ideal diet is simply by looking at what humans have eaten in the past, or what other apes eat. To me, that only tells part of the story.

The real question is:

–    Are eggs truly healthy?
–    Is there something in eggs you cannot get from fruits and vegetables?
–    Are there any concerns with eating eggs?

I can see a few things wrong with eggs. First of all, they are very high in protein, and a high-protein diet wears down the kidneys and contributes to cancer. High protein diets also are a major contributing factor in osteoporosis.

Eggs are also very rich in methionine, a sulphur-containing amino acid. That means they are very acidifying, because methionine is broken down into sulphuric acid by the body. That sulphuric acid delivers a big acid load to the body that must be neutralized by leaching precious calcium from your bones.

According the Relative Acid Load chart (also called Potential Renal Acid Load), eggs are some of the most acidifying food there is. Egg yolk is even more acidifying to the body than beef or salami. That goes for your raw eggs too.

There is also the potential of bacterial contamination with eggs. Many people have been seriously harmed by eating contaminated eggs, especially raw eggs.

Egg eaters live shorter lives. A recent study showed that men who eat more eggs live shorter lives:

Since you can get all the nutrients you need from fruits and vegetables (except for the vitamin B12 that is made in your guts. If you’re concerned, take a supplement), I see absolutely no reason to eat eggs, and many more reasons NOT to eat them.

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26 Responses to “The Glycemic Index and the Raw Food Diet”

  1. lola says:

    thanks for the great answer to eggs, I wondered about that myself.

  2. Concerned says:

    Eating 3000 Calories from Fruit: An all fruit diet has got to be dangerous! Vegetables, nuts/seeds, beans and legumes all offer vital nutrients that I don’t think you can get in fruit alone! Frederic, do you think what this lady is doing is okay? Isn’t she taking an unnecessary risk to her health?

    COMMENT: What exact nutrients are you talking about can’t be found in fruit? By the way I don’t recommend an all-fruit diet. Fruits + vegetables is best.

  3. Ghislaine says:

    Hello Frédérique, I Heard that eating too many bananas causes mucus in the body. Have you ever heard about this ? and what do you think ? Thank you, Ghislaine

    ANSWER: No reason why they would, unless they are eaten unripe.

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  5. Aga says:

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
    I have a question for you as well; I’ve become raw vegan a little over a year ago. In January I’ve noticed a rash on my hands that and severe itching all over my body. It went this way for a few months (I’ve tired different creams, including one with steroids for three weeks or so). Three weeks ago it went out of control (eczema covered almost my entire body 🙁 and I was desperately looking for help (I knew it was a Candida overgrowth though). I came across your website and few other sites and decided to stop eating nuts and avocado – plus I did a liver flush) and my symptoms are slowly diminishing 🙂

    Can you tell me how many people on high fat raw vegan diet have had similar experiences and how long it will take for my body to get rid off the eczema completely? Would few days of fasting help?



  6. JennaBear says:

    Hey Frederic,
    Thanks for clearing that up about eggs! I had never read anything about WHY eggs are not an ideal food. I still eat them occasionally, and said that when I found a reason that organic, vegetarian fed, free-roaming, etc., eggs are not ideal. Now I have a reason, and I will stop! Thanks again!

  7. Dusan Rajcevic says:

    Great article as always!

    There’s one thing worth mentioning. A recent study showed that white button mushrooms (found in most supermarkets) contain significant quantity of active B 12 vitamin (cyanocobalamin). That being said, there’s no need for taking any supplement from pharmaceutical criminals if a huge deficiency occurs. (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jf9010966)

    Another way of getting B 12 vitamin, although not very popular among dentists, is by not using any tooth paste at all. On a raw fruit diet it’s totally sufficient to brush the teeth with a clean tooth brush and floss when necessary. It’s the second year I do this, without any trouble for my teeth. If you’re wondering how we get the B 12 by not using a tooth paste, it’s because of bacteria living in our mouth. If you give them enough time, they will produce sufficient quantity, combined with B 12 produced in small intestine.

    It’s interesting to note, pharmaceutical industry has found a way to take the most money out of our pocket by selling us tooth pastes – killing the bacteria producing B 12 vitamin – and than forcing us to buy expensive (inefficient) supplements in order to not die (as usually said by medical liars). Wicked mind, no doubt!
    By the way, there’s a way of getting enough calories on a low fat low fruit diet, and that is by eating large quantities of sprouts. Though not the healthiest, in a lack of fruit certainly possible to survive with (my close friends had lived for 4 years that way – now they follow predominantly fruit diet due to health benefits).

    Best wishes!

  8. Heather says:

    Hi Frederic, how much water do you think one should drink on a Raw Vegan/High Fruit Diet?

  9. Filip Likar says:

    can you explain how the body manufatures vit B12 as stated in your Jul 30 blog? I am moving toward becoming a vegetarian (with fully raw being eutopia-low fat of course-you can’t run fast when you’re a fatty!!!) and am in a pitch battle with my 3 y.o.’s mother about not getting enough Vit B12 because I don’t give him animal protein any more (lucky boy to have such a caring dad). Please advise.

  10. SuzieQ says:

    Cheers for your clear forthright answer to the egg question. Why do hens keep laying eggs (without little chicks in them), if they are not for comsumption? They seem good enough for a host of other animals, eg. stoats, who eat them ‘in the wild’. Why not humans?

  11. Dave says:

    Hi Frederic! What do you think of taking psyllium husks to help alleviate constipation. Even with eating an all raw food diet with only small amounts of nuts or fatty foods, my stools are still thin and not large. When I have taken psyllium in the past it has worked well. Are there any side effects to psylium? Thanks for everything. My health has improved substantiially since last October when I began following your diet.

  12. Richard says:

    great info as usual Frederic! Thank you! Best wishes in your training!

  13. Natalia says:

    Thank you for giving informative answer about eggs and glycemic index. Many people have been confused regarding both of these issues.

  14. Renee says:

    Hi Frederic

    I’m currently reading a book called “Performance without pain: Helpful advice for healing digestive disorders” by Kathryne Pirtle and Sally Fallon. It advocates a “healing diet” rich in fermented foods, bone broths and organ meats, raw milk, traditional fats like raw butter or coconut oil as well as cod-liver oil, butter oil and HSO supplements.

    What is your opinion on this, especially on eating fermented foods?


  15. Rae says:

    I’m confused abut frozen food. Are all frozen veggies, such as edamame and corn, actually heated before freezing and thus not actually raw? Same question with regard to frozen fruit: Is it still raw? Also, what is happening as far a the US goverbment’s plant to irradiate food?

  16. Sensible says:

    Let’s be honest here – how practical is this diet you are advocating, Fred. Say for example I wanted to go travelling the world – how could I adhere to making green smoothies and veggie stews along the way? Would it not be more sensible for me to eat a varied diet of fruit, vegetables, grains and pulses as I went? I think you yourself have said in the past that you wouldn’t go to Iceland because their is a lack of fruit there – is this not a bit ridiculous?! You are closing off a visit to a very interesting country just because you’ve heard there’s no variety of fresh fruit – to me, this is totally illogical.

    COMMENT: I have traveled to many countries including Brazil, Costa Rica, Panama, Bali, Thailand, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, and many others, and sometimes I have followed the diet you recommend, and sometimes I have eaten 100% raw. My health, energy and enjoyment of my trip has always been so much better when I’ve eaten 100% raw, so now I prefer to do that. Also, wherever I have gone I never had trouble finding fruits. No need to make green smoothies when you are traveling. Just eating fruit is enough.

    By the way I plan to travel to Iceland next year and I will be eating 100% raw there. I don’t know where you read that I would not go because there is no fruit, but you are wrong. There is fruit everywhere. If not, you can bring your own, dried if necessary.

    Eating a variety of raw foods, I agree, has huge health improving benefits – but one does not have to eat entirely raw to be healthy. P.S. You’re also wrong about Essential Fatty Acids. Adequate ammounts cannot be achieved be eating fruit and veg alone – one needs to get these essential fats from seeds, nuts, or fish. 10% is too low, leading to dry skin, concentration problems, and fatigue.

    COMMENT: I eat less than 10% fat and I don’t have dry skin, concentration problems and fatigue. In fact, quite the opposite. Too much fat in the diet leads to fatigue and concentration problems.

  17. Gilly says:

    Hi Frederic,

    I didn’t know eggs were so bad for you, I know people who swear by eating 2 eggs once a day to keep them healthy. Although they do have problems like bone and joint diseases. The impact of eating eggs may of caused this…

  18. Gavin R. says:

    Hi Fred, It’s always great receiving updates from you about the raw food lifestyle. As a committed raw foodist I constantly rely on your expertise for support. I was just wondering what are the caloric contents of the savory veggie stews. Seems like very low calorie ingredients go into preparing the stews. Also, I’ve avoided leaks, scallion, garlic and onion (I actually hate the taste of these things now). After using these ingredients in the stews based on the recipe, I did not enjoy the soup. Are these essential for flavoring the stews? Thanks Also, may I suggest for your next e-book, a recipe guide of HIGH calorie meals for those of us who are athletes or struggling to put on weight. I suggest mentioning the exact calorie content for each meal and listing SIMPLE LOW FAT meals that combine to make 3000+ calories daily. Food for thought. Thanks for your advice. Gavin

    COMMENT: When I make a big one it’s about 400-500 calories. That’s why you need to get your calories during the day! I will usually start dinner with fruit as well.

    For the other questions… I don’t have time to answer today. Maybe in my next ezine. Maybe other readers can help answer some questions?

  19. StCannabis says:

    If you have been eating well (and possibly even if your not), then fasting for a few days will be beneficial.

  20. Yuliya says:

    Hi Frederic and everyone else,

    I was wondering where to find more information about raw food diet and diabetes. I know of Victoria Boutenko family experience but where else? The person I am talking about is afraid of sweet fruits for this reason, so I am trying to make savoury green smoothies, but I need to gain more understanding of the disease and it’s dependancy on the diet.

    Thank you,

  21. anna says:

    Dear Fred,
    Love your website. However, I find that the information does
    not fit properly on the usual computer screen. The general
    lines are too long and are unable to be read without scrolling
    EVERY line. Who has time for this? Could it be made to fit
    please please please.

    Also, a question that I have not read before. What do you do
    when you want warm food without heating it up. I do not believe
    people want to eat raw COLD. Plainly put I just warm mine up.
    What do you do? Regards.

  22. MOHAMMED says:

    When you are on a raw veg/fruit diet you hardly feel any thirst. I am that way. Drink only when you are thirsty, just enough to quench your thirst – neither more nor less. If you need 3 sips drink 3, no more; if you need 10 sips drink 10, not less. Don’t drink 4 glasses or 6 glasses as the doctors prescribe – because your stomach is not a storage tank, it is a LIVING organ, part of the LIVING digestive system.

  23. Erin says:

    Hi Frederic,

    What are your thoughts on water – ionized, spring, filtered, etc. Outside of tap water being loaded with chlorine and flouride, I’m now concerned with the PH level of water. Let me know your thoughts as I’m now on the verge of getting a $600 water ionizer and not sure it’s worth it. Let me know.


  24. Armena says:

    On diabetes read Dr. Douglas N. Graham’s expose that fat in too high amount is the culprit, (not fruit) – in his book “The 80/10/10 Diet” on his website http://www.foodnsport.com also on http://www.livingnutrition.com also on Amazon! This is a reply to Yulia’s question. from Armena in Ann Arbor of 2 raw food songs! Can you see them on YouTube? “Peace in the Pipes” + “Banana with Banana”

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  26. Tasiyiwa says:

    Will people with Candida have problems eating the high fruit diet you recommend?

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