July 16

What’s Wrong With Wheatgrass?

Filed under Raw Food Controversies by Frederic Patenaude

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– In this issue

– What’s Wrong With Wheatgrass?

– Questions from the readers (that’s you!)

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Dear raw-food enthusiast,

durian-truck.jpgI hope that you’re enjoying the summer. Here in Eastern Canada we don’t have a summer at all. If the planet is truly warming up, somehow this spot must have been left out because it feels more like October than July!

But it’s perfect temperature for running and so I’m not complaining.

I also had the chance to visit the beautiful country of Thailand in June and bring back many good memories of the beautiful places I visited and great people I met. I’m still sorting through my pictures and videos and hopefully I’ll share some of them with you soon.

Our featured picture on the right is the “durian truck”, a common sight in the province of Chanthaburi about three hours south of Bangkok. I discovered this place thanks to my friend Harley “Durian Rider” (check out his wonderful forum at www.30bananasaday.com), where more durian is grown than anywhere in the world. As low as 50 cents a pound, we couldn’t complain.

A quick reminder: my friend Roger Haeske recently released an amazing program called the Savory Veggie Stews. If you think Green Smoothies were great, wait till you try this. This recipe system enabled me to totally eliminate my dinnertime salt and cooked cravings! After the Green Smoothie Revolution, I’m sure we’ll have a Veggie Stew revolution, thanks to this great new product by Roger. It’s launch week so you’re getting a better price if you order now, plus a bunch of freebies. Check it out here:

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Frederic

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Wheatgrass: Nature’s Perfect Food?

Thanks to Dr. Graham
for his help in helping me revise the latest version of this article.

Wheatgrass used to be the big “superfood” promoted by popular raw-food authors. Nowadays, you don’t hear much about it since they are too busy selling raw chocolate and other more lucrative items, but it’s more popular than ever in the mainstream.

Jamba Juice sells it.

You can find frozen wheatgrass juice in most health food stores and most of the popular raw food rejuvenation centers offer wheatgrass juice as part of their therapy.

Why would you want to drink such a nasty beverage?

Let’s look at the claims made by wheatgrass proponents one by one.

1-Chlorophyll

One of the big claims made about wheatgrass juice is that because it’s rich in chlorophyll, and that chlorophyll is similar to hemoglobin in structure, that somehow it helps “build your blood”, because hemoglobin is an important component of blood. Some authors have even claimed that the “only” difference between hemoglobin and chlorophyll is the center element, which is iron for hemoglobin and magnesium for chlorophyll.

What is chlorophyll? It’s of course the substance that converts sun energy into chemical energy through the process known as photosynthesis. Without this process, human life would not be possible! Only plants can make carbohydrates from carbon dioxide and water.

Hemoglobin is a protein that transports oxygen into the red blood cells. It makes up about 35% of the blood. Without hemoglobin, human life would also not be possible. It transports oxygen from the lungs to every cell of the body that needs it.

So what’s the link between the two? They are certainly similar in structure, but with very important difference. The main difference is that hemoglobin is built around iron, while chlorophyll is built around magnesium. But to claim that the two molecules are easily interchangeable is really oversimplying things

We know that if you need iron, you cannot just take magnesium and expect your body to convert it like an alchemist would convert lead into gold.

Certain elements that help build the blood (such as iron, calcium, vitamin C, folic acid, etc.) are found abundantly in chlorophyll-containing foods such as green vegetables, so it’s easy to understand that these foods can have some benefits. But the claim that chlorophyll can be converted into hemoglobin is simply not supported by science.

Chrolophyll is not a necessary nutrient in human nutrition. Many populations throughout history have gone for years, or even decades on restricted diets of various foods that do not contain any chlorophyll (such as fruits, root vegetables, grains, etc.), with no apparent difficiency.

But the big misunderstanding about grass as part of the human diet is that we’re simply not grass-eating creatures. All of the various vitamins and minerals that are found in wheatgrass can be found in much more succulent and easily digestible fruits and v

wheatgrass.jpeg2-Enzymes

Perhaps you should drink wheatgrass juice for enzymes?

First of all, the enzymes that are destroyed in the food are NOT the same enzymes that are required by your body to digest the food you’re eating.

For the sake of clarity, let’s define an enzyme. An enzyme is essentially a protein that helps make a specific chemical reaction occur.

Food enzymes are those found in foods, and their purpose is to carry out the chemical reactions necessary for the existence and life of the plant itself.

They are also destroyed by stomach acids upon ingestion by humans. Even if they could somehow survive the acidity in the stomach, these enzymes were designed for the plant. They helped the plant to grow, and would continue to help the plant carry out its life cycle. They play no part in the human digestive process.

The plant enzymes found in wheatgrass are in no way special. Lettuce and other vegetables contain the same enzymes.

3- Most Nutritious Food

The biggest claim about wheatgrass is that an ounce of wheatgrass juice is worth more than 2 pounds of fresh green vegetables. Is this true? Let’s see how this claim stands scrutiny.

Below you’ll find the nutritional data (taken from USDA databases) for one ounce of wheatgrass juice, compared to 2 pounds of two different vegetables. I threw in the typical carrot in there, just to see, even though it’s not a green vegetable.You’ll find that your typical ounce of wheatgrass juice is nowhere close to replacing the 2 pounds of vegetables, as wheatgrass promoters have claimed.

Wheatgrass Juice (1 ounce)

Vitamin E, 880 mcg (that’s “microgram” not milligram)
Betacarotene,120 IU
Vitamin C, 1 mg.
Vitamin B12, 0.30 mcg (that’s “microgram” again)
Magnesium, 8 mg.
Calcium, 7.2 mg.
Iron, 0.66 mg.
Potassium, 42 mg.

Raw Spinach (2 pounds)

Vitamin E, 18400 mcg.  (I converted to micrograms, for easier comparison)
Betacarotene, 85,066. IU
Vitamin C, 254.9 mg.
Vitamin B12, none
Magnesium, 716.7 mg.
Calcium, 898.1 Mg.
Iron, 24.6 mg.
Potassium, 5,062.1 mg.

Raw Carrots (2 pounds)

Vitamin E, 6000 mcg.  (I converted to micrograms, for easier comparison)
Betacarotene, 152,506 IU
Vitamin C, 53.5
Vitamin B12, none
Magnesium, 108.9 mg.
Calcium, 299.4 Mg.
Iron, 2.7 mg.
Potassium, 2,903.0 mg.

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Eating Olives

Hi Frederic! I really enjoyed reading your “Raw Secrets” book. What do you think of eating olives? Do olives have a high nutritional value? Some of the gourmet olives taste great although they use too much salt so I usually soak the olives in water and rinse them before eating to reduce the salt. I like olives, but I am just concerned about the excess salt. Since olives are also high in fat, how many do you recommend eating for one serving? Thanks.

ANSWER: I don’t recommend olives, except as an occasional exception. Olives are quite inedible when picked right from the tree, and must be cured and preserved in salt. That makes them quite unhealthy in the first place.

I also know that some people sell sun-dried, salt-free olives. I personally find them bitter as hell and am not attracted to eat them at all. But if you like them, you can certainly enjoy a few (maybe 6-12) with a salad meal. But remember, they should be sundried and salt-free. Maybe if you try them in that state you’ll come to the same conclusion I did, which is that they’re nothing special!

How Much Protein is Enough?

Frederic, I have just received your lesson 3 about protein…that surprised me more than anything so far. I am just curious how you came to this conclusion of less than 6% protein is optimal. I tried to remove proteins from my meals and I felt miserable because I fell eating too much starch and weakening my bodies. An ND told me because I am a blood type O+, I had to have my daily proteins!!…suggesting to go back to meat. Because I am vegetarian, I refused to eat meat no matter what….

ANSWER: 6% of protein in total calories consumed is plenty, for the following reasons:

1.    Human milk only contains 6% protein (by calories). We know that babies are growing fast and need more protein than adult. So there is no reason to think we would need more protein than a growing baby.
2.    Vegetarian and fruitarian animals on the planet all eat a low-protein diet and yet build tremendous strength and muscle.
3.    Proteins in fruits and vegetables are of higher quality than proteins in grains or beans. They contain all necessary amino acids and are not processed, cooked or coagulated by heat. Therefore, they are easy to assimilate.

In the 11 years I’ve been on a raw diet, I’ve never known any raw-foodist with a true protein deficiency.

However, I’ve met plenty of people who consumed too little food and wasted away, in addition to suffering from many deficiency-related problems.

It’s essential to consume enough calories to meet your needs. If you do that, you’ll automatically get enough protein, along with most necessary nutrients (one exception is Vitamin B12. I recommend supplementing for that).

As for the blood type diet, I have debunked it many times, in details in my program the Raw Health Starter Kit.
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72 Responses to “What’s Wrong With Wheatgrass?”

  1. Nimisha says:

    Thank you so much for speaking out on wheatgrass. I’m sheepishly admitting that for a while, in a desperate quest for healing, I was duped by all the claims. I’m relieved to hear that I don’t need to drink the nasty stuff (I haven’t in 3+ years).

    With much gratitude for your insights and wisdom.
    Nimisha

  2. JIm says:

    Frederic,

    That is quite different viewpoint you have regarding WheatGrass. I never liked the stuff anyway and now you have given me the reason why. 🙂

    Jim

  3. Dan says:

    I love wheatgrass juice! I have been drinking it for years. I always feel great after a shot of wheatgrass. That is my own subjective and experiential conclusion. No science to back it up, just a joyous feeling in my heart every time I drink it. I would write more but I am going to go have 4 oz shot of wheatgrass in coconut water and fill my body with the bio electric non-linear invisible power, that unfortunately, we do not have the scientific equipment available to us to prove or disprove exists. I guess I will just have to stick with my own subjective conclusion from years of experimentation, that wheatgrass for me truly is a super food! I will continue to drink it every time I get the chance. Learning from books is knowledge. Learning from experience is wisdom. Experiment with wheat grass juice and make up your own mind! 😀

  4. thierry says:

    hi fred , you wrote “I don’t recommend olives, except as an occasional exception. Olives are quite inedible when picked right from the tree, and must be cured and preserved in salt. That makes them quite unhealthy in the first place.” …..
    i must say something about this…i’m a long time rawfoodist living in south france ( in fact i parctice instincto nutrition) , i don’t want to discuss the fact yes or no we need fatty products but only the fact that you say that they are inedible picked in nature
    this is totally false , if you let them ripe correctly and fall down to earth then in late june you can collect them (as i do in huge quantity for many years) totally edible and fantastically flavoured
    if you want to keep them you can or else let them dry naturally or else keep them in closed jam pot they will remain fresh for many month without any additive , salt ; water or anything else
    thanks for all your article
    thierry

  5. thierry says:

    make a mistake!!! not late june but late january….:=)

  6. Dan says:

    P.S. I am not embarrassed in the least.

    The staunchest wheatgrass promoter 😀

  7. Fred… I love it. Your are a smart Guy Fredo. I love your No B.S. approach to health and nutrition. I know exactly what you mean. And i recognize the sales propaganda out there, selling people health.

    Anyways… I wanted to give you a SHOUT OUT… I am happy to know you…even if it is through the internet

    ENJOY

  8. Dan says:

    Also Fred your intentions are good, but if you want to be a truly effective teacher you will focus on the positive and refrain from attacking the perceived negative. Controversy sells but not nearly as well as love and unconditional acceptance of the diversity of the human experience. Keep up the great work! The world needs you right now….

  9. Malaine Gabel says:

    Hi! I am so grateful for all of your very insightful knowledge. I have been struggling on and off with the Raw food diet for a long time now, and you’ve helped me to understand what I’ve been doing wrong. My question for you is this: What about Candida overgrowth. I thought that feeding sugar to the yeast was really bad. I’ve been avoiding fruit for years because of this belief. Even Gabriel Cousens has a book about stopping the "composting" that is apparently happening in all of our bodies, by stopping all sugar for three months. I just found some other info that says that if you eat fruit alone, it should be fine, because the real problem is fermentation. I’m so confused, but I am very excited about the possibility of getting to eat fruit again. Please help! Thank yo so much for all you do! Best Regards, Malaine

    COMMENT: I suggest you read my Fruit Report to answer your questions: http://www.fredericpatenaude.com/fruitreport.pdf A diet of FAT is certainly not the answer to candida, but this is what all of these anti-candida diets promote. It’s the opposite the body needs.

  10. “according to the same logic, the best way to build your blood would be to drink human blood, or the best way to build muscle would be to eat human flesh”

    Bingo. Thanks for helping me see past the wheatgrass craze. Frederic, you’ve done it *again*.

  11. Tom Petrie says:

    Regarding wheat grass, I appreciate you sharing your opinion about it. That’s all well and good, but I have found it to be a tremendous tool for promoting healing–not only in my brother who found himself cancer-free after a few months on daily ounces of the beverage to my many clients who enjoy its benefits. So before totally dismissing its health benefits, I would suggest the reader to do their own research.

    In determining the bias of a writer on a given subject, one only looks at how they phrase their comments. On the subject of chlorophyll, you have this: “There is of course no research that proves that.” Why “of course” Of course, according to whom? Why the presumption? This is a mark of a biased writer. Unbiased writers do not say “of course” about anything, unless, of course, it supports their bias.

    I have not seen great research on wheat grass, but this is true for many natural “tools” that various practitioners use in their work with sick patients. Therefore, I would not use this as a reason for not using wheat grass. If you don’t like wheat grass, or what it does for your health, then don’t drink it.

    COMMENT: It’s not just the lack of research. It’s the false claims, and the bad logic. By the way, the “of course” is just a mark of healthy sarcasm. If you can take what I read and see the sense of humor that I have, you will see that I am not closed minded and biased at all.

  12. Ed says:

    Friends : our tongue is a TESTER, TASTER, and GUARDIAN of our body, the best science of evaluating any raw food, good or bad values, should be left to our TONGUE …..that is one main function of this very crucial body part, when I drank wheetgrass many years ago I thought I was going to die and I spit it out and trashed the rest and never drank it again….animals don’t go around reading books about food nutritional values, they simply examine it by looking at it , smelling it, then taste it…. just simple as that.

  13. Colette says:

    What a surprising article ! I must congratulate you for your research and your doubts about something being accepted as truth.
    Nevertherless I wonder (as you know everything can be proved as well as its contrary :it is always possible to find arguments in either ways…) : how is it possible that so many people for so many years in different health institutes have been using this Wheatgrass juice with so many wonderful results…. and I am afraid that saying no studies have been done, it is just not true(as long as I know).
    It is so funny to see that across the world things seem to occur at the same time. As you launched this article, I was doing the same, reporting the so-called “miraculous” properties of wheatgrass juice on my blog !!! With reference given by the Hippocrate Institute (Florida) as well as experience of Dr Ann Wigmore.
    I believe also that this juice should not be our “current” food… if we eat healthy foods (who does ??? really I mean…), and have a healthy way of life (Some happy and conscious few people…). It should be used for healing only like any “drug”, and used with care. That is the case in these Institutes where most of the people come to cure themselves of some illness.
    So, I think consistently that nothing is better than the personal experience : what others say can only be an information to record somewhere in our mind and then we have to try to go further.
    Nobody can be blindly believed ! I quite agree with Dan comment.
    A staunchest wheatgrass promoter !!!

  14. Maya M says:

    Hi Fred, love your information even when I don’t always agree with you. Its important to get a different point of view and there is always more to learn. Regarding the question on Candida…there is lots of great information avaiable on http://www.bodyecology.com. Read the info, you don’t have to get the products to help yourself.
    Love and blessings
    Maya
    PS. Love the toothsoap and powder!!!!

    COMMENTS: I personally don’t agree with the Body Ecology Diet, for reasons cited elsewhere. But as you said I welcome different points of view.

  15. Ed says:

    OLIVES ? I have been enjoying olives for a few years now. Simply pick the good ones up from the ground…..leave them on a tray under the sun for 1-2 days……bring them inside and give it another few day……start tasting them to see if they are ok…..then store in your frig and enjoy them for months….

    COMMENT: If you enjoy them, sure! I had them in California that way. But it’s not something I would want to eat nowadays.

  16. Julie says:

    If allergic to wheat (I sneeze whenever I’ve taken a shot in the past) then best to avoid the nasty tasting stuff — shots being necessary to get past the taste buds! Expensive too as there are tons of tastier and nutritious items for $2, i.e., 2 apples, an apple and a banana, and on and on! Only 2 things grass is good for — cows and other grazing animals, and dogs to roll in, and, make that 3 — golf (and Wimbledon)!

  17. mike henderson says:

    dear frederic,
    thanks for the post,
    when you refer to wheatgrass juice,is this in any form-even fresh grown and juiced at home.also there is guy who grows wheatgrass in seawater solution so
    that the uptake of nutrients and minerals is optimised claiming 90 minerals and so on.Another point is that minerals when taken up by the plant are chelated which
    means that they are able to be absorbed by the human body cells so that when juiced they are in what is known as an IONIC state-angstrom sized particles.
    This info is explained better in Spiritual Nutrition by Gabriel cousens.

    COMMENT: It doesn’t matter what form. Bottom line is, as others have pointed out, you can’t eat wheatgrass in its natural form. We’re not cows…

  18. I agree with Dan. I get a boost from wheat grass for whatever reason.
    Having it with coconut milk is a brilliant idea.

    COMMENT: You might ask yourself what that “boost” is. I get a boost from drinking coffee too. But I quit because it was harming my body. I think the “boost” people experience with wheatgrass is just stimulation, of the wrong kind.

  19. Jennifer says:

    a proponent of raw foods suggest going off all of my medications…as they are poison to the body….

    i have schizoaffective disorder bipolar type and depression and would soon be suicidal without my meds…. when i was a member of your club and following your meal plans…i was able to reduce some of my psychiatric meds….

    right now i am following The Thrive Diet and not losing any weight..or very little… probably too many cocoa nibs …..and coconut oil……

    what would be your response to a raw guru who wants you to go off your psychiatric and arthritis meds? i am only 40 but have been suffering from osteoarthritis for years now…..

    thank you,
    Jennifer

    COMMENT: You have to watch this closely with a professional. My recommendation is to do everything you can to improve your health, with the best diet possible and best lifestyle possible. You might find as many others have found that the meds are no longer necessary. Your doctor will probably agree. My friend Tonya Kay overcame bi-polar disorder naturally. www.tonyakay.com

  20. Hi! I’m really interested in knowing your sources for that sentence you wrote here about wheatgrass:

    ”For example, one ounce of broccoli juice contains 22 times the beta-carotene, 8 times the vitamin C, 3 times the magnesium, 3 times the potassium and 3 times the calcium as one ounce of wheatgrass juice! ”

    I think you would more ”trustable” (if I can say) if you could give us some ”scientific” facts and/or sources to rely on.

    Thanks a lot! And sorry if my english is not adequate, I’m french speaking!
    Hope to hear from you!

    Best regards! Nathalie

    COMMENT: I wrote this article a few months ago. I just looked up the nutritional database for broccoli juice (not that I recommend it, but just for the comparison) against published nutritional analysis of wheatgrass.

  21. Les Sutch says:

    Enzymes are these distroyed in high speed blenders? Do blenders and juicers heat up the food at a micro level ? Are there any other chemical reaction in blending foods .

    COMMENT: It doesn’t matter if enzymes are destroyed in the blender. Why would you need a plant enzyme? It’s for the plant. Your body produces all the enzymes it needs. Ask ANY physiologist. I wouldn’t worry about the chemical changes in blending. You’re simply destroying some vitamins through oxidation, but there’s still plenty left.

  22. Tom says:

    Fred:

    Thanks for your great article. I have tried wheatgrass juice, despite the sickening odor (reminds me of mowing the lawn) and horrid taste. At the time, I observed others at the “health” food bar holding their noses, gagging, and quickly “chasing” it down with something more palatable. Others diluted it in order to make it easier to drink. I wondered why so many would put themselves through such an ordeal. Who first suggested drinking something that the body inherently rebels against? If it smells bad, makes you gag, and needs to be diluted to cover it up, how did it become so popular?

    I found the answer after some research. As best as I could find, Ann Wigmore introduced it. She came to America after WWII and became quick sickly eating the SAD “Standard American Diet.” She says, “Because the physicians and drugstores seem powerless to help me, I instinctively turned to God for guidance” (Be Your Own Doctor, Ann Wigmore, pg. 25). [My first thought is why, if guided by instinct, she first sought help from doctors and druggists.] Ann continues and explains that God spoke to her and told her to be a minister and a healer. She claims she was quite ignorant as to the things of God and began reading the Bible at the Christian Science Cathedral in Boston (Ibid.)Moreover, she read about King Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel Chapter 4. Her reading lead her to believe that the King was sick and was healed by eating grass with the oxen. “…I reasoned, it could today rebuild the tottering bodies I saw all around me.”

    Unfortunately, not being well-read in the Bible, Ann missed that the King was being punished by God and lost his position and kingdom, being forced to live and eat with oxen for seven years. His hair and nails grew long and ugly, and he lost his “reason.” After seven years, he returned…and so did his health and mind. Daniel 4:12 tells of a tree, which is a metaphor in the king’s dream, that provides for all. The leaves and boughs house birds, animals feed upon grass in the shade of the tree, and man lives off of the “fruit thereof…” (Bible KJV Daniel 4:12).

    Ann then recounts how she wrote to people all over the world asking for seeds of their best grasses, and using advice from soil experts, looked for grasses that had “rapid growth, widespread roots, sturdy stalks, and quick evidence of chlorophyll…” (Ibid. pg 26). This non-scientific study (no controls, varying soil, light, and water conditions, etc.) “qualified” seven grasses, including wheat. Not knowing which to choose as the ideal healer and grass to be consumed by humans, she decided to let her kitten decide. The kitten ate the wheat grass. But “I wanted more proof (Ibid.).” So Ann borrowed a cocker spaniel from a friend. “Like the kitten, it too chose the wheatgrass. There could be no doubt. Wheatgrass was the grass I sought. […] I realized, probably for the first time, that wheatgrass is a God-send and had arrived at the right time to change the chemistry of my blood, enabling me to survive those difficult times” (Ibid.).

    So, to make a long story short: The wheatgrass craze started because of a sick immigrant who, believing God spoke to her, was lead by incorrectly interpreting a passage in the Bible that grass was God’s healing food, and let the instincts of a cat and a dog pick wheatgrass.

    Might I point out (tongue-in-cheeck) that cats and dogs also eat their own feces, and cows throw up their cud and re-chew it in order to digest grasses. I’m sorry, but my instincts don’t follow cats, dogs, or cows. I believe that my own nose and stomach “instinctively” teach me that wheatgrass is best left to animals. I prefer the sweet, aromatic, juicy fruit!

    Thanks again Fred, for pointing out the many fallacies behind some of the so-called superfoods (i.e., super-moneymakers). I’d rather use the K.I.S.S formula: Keep it SUPER Simple as my rule of thumb in choosing healthy food.

    (stepping down from soapbox)

  23. Jane says:

    I love wheat grass and go by how my body feels. I feel better since adding it and I like the flavor. I have used it as a retention douche as part of my natural cervical cancer treatment with great results. 🙂 My son has used it on his scalp for his psoriasis also with great results. Peace, Jane

  24. Tirza says:

    You have introduced an interesting point that does sound logical. We of the raw food persuasion have heard it said repeatedly that it is best to eat things just as they are when grown. Wheatgrass must obviously be processed in some way, even if it is by a slow-speed juicer or by drying and powdering it before we consume it. You made a good point in saying that to obtain it in the most natural way we should first of all have the digestive system of the grass-eating animals, and have the time to chew away at it all day. Many other commonly used “superfoods” in the raw diet may fall into this class and I question the use of some of them for the same reason.

    However, I am battling cancer. First I heard I heard that the Budwig diet/protocol is no good because of the dairy. Then I heard that carrot and beet juices were not ideal because of their sugar content, which feeds the cancer. Now I’m hearing that wheatgrass juice is no good too? I am not left with many natural options. I very reluctantly submit to surgery, but do not want chemo or radiation. I want to treat myself with natural things.

    Someone quoted from the Bible to me about herbs being given for healing. I think that must right there place them in a different category from food, and therefore not subject to the same criteria as “daily” food. No matter what a person’s stand on the Bible, I think there is a real hint in there about how to live-and heal. Yes, we should do all we can to eat the ideal diet to prevent these diseases, but once we have them, we need to look to something more radical to try to get rid of them, even if it’s green juices or smoothies. I can’t see how eating a well balanced raw diet without some extra oomph on the side could treat my cancer. Most people with cancer don’t have enough time to just switch into a raw or mostly raw diet and hope it will do its work fast enough. Whatever we use as a herbal or other natural treatment, once it does its job, we can settle back into…NOT the SAD diet…but the living foods diet to maintain optimum health and prevent further disease for life.

    In light of more urgent situations such as cancer, what would you advise on such things as wheatgrass (or carrot and beet juice, or even *gasp* the Budwig diet, that have been used with apparently real documented success. I have given up dairy willingly, but it scares me to think of giving up the other so-called “heavy hitters” to treat cancer.

    Thank you so much.

    COMMENT: I’m not advising anything for cancer. But if I was battling the same situation, I would want to know: are there any studies that show that wheatgrass actually improves chances of survival for cancer? “Documented results” can be disputed since the improvements may be due to something entirely different, such as a simple change in diet and removing unhealthy foods. I would also want to know, “what’s in wheatgrass that’s so special?” To me there’s nothing special about it. Vegetables in general are much more nutritious and healthier, and I’m quite certain that most cancerologists would agree. Ask them.

  25. Natalija says:

    Logically, if we can’t eat something as it is, why should we juice it?
    I remember eating the middle parts of some grass (bentgrass?) when i was a kid. It is soft and sweet. Many kids do that. I still like to chew it lying on the grass 🙂 But wheat is very hard to chew, it is definitely not for us. On the other hand there is advise to blend some greens, because we lost ability to chew them well. I am not sure that this is right thing to do… But we do need greens (Green for Life – Butenko).

  26. Alicia Harris says:

    You THINK the “boost” people experience with wheatgrass is just stimulation, of the wrong kind? Why would you keep down playing wheatgrass and disregarding all the benefits it has given to so many people for some reason you are not even sure of? I am sure you have a huge following. These people trust your opinions. By saying negative things about wheatgrass when you really have no understanding of the positive affects it has only deprives those who could benefit.

    COMMENT: And what “positive effects” are we talking about?

  27. Penny says:

    How about barley grass?

  28. Steve M. says:

    I have had positive experiences with Wheatgrass. I know someone who’s cancer disappeared after 90 days on practically a wheatgrass diet, and my wife and friends told me repeatedly that my skin became smooth and young looking after a being on wheatgrass for about four months. I have to agree… my face skin is now as smooth as a baby’s butt for being 43 years old. I’m told I look in my late 20’s.

    Just my two cents from my own experience…

  29. Dan says:

    If it were not for the grass it is a distinct possibility humans would not be here.

    If it were not for meat humans would probably not be here.

    So, If it were not for grass and meat you wouldn’t even be here to become a raw food vegan and complain about all the things that people are doing “wrong” in their lives.

    Whatever your paradigm of reality is there is always one above it that makes you look like you do not know what the hell you are talking about. That is why humility is such a wonderful tool.

    Remember, today’s science is tomorrows ignorance, it has always been this way it always will be due to the nature of the evolution of consciousness.

    LOVE EVERYONE and JUDGE NOTHING 😀

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCpu6t19d40

  30. Heather says:

    Great Article. Thank you for the information! It sounds true to me.

    I just have a couple questions…

    I read that Young Coconut water is identical to human blood plasma, making it the universal donor. Plasma makes up 55% of human blood.

    Do you think that is true?

    COMMENT: I’ve heard this before. I don’t know if it’s true. It sounds like an urban myth but it could hold some truth. Plasma is made up for 92% water, 7% protein, and other elements such as sugar, amino acids, lipids, and minerals. Coconut water has all of these elements, but in different proportions. However, plasma is not blood. It’s a part of blood.

    I’ve recently been enjoying young coconut water.
    Do you think they are as good as people claim (high in electrolytes, identical to human blood plasma, etc?)

    COMMENT: Enjoy it for drinking, sure.

    You wrote, “One of the big claims made about wheatgrass juice is that because it’s rich in Chlorophyll, and that chlorophyll is similar to hemoglobin in structure, that somehow it helps “build your blood”. There is of course no research that proves that.”
    I believe that but I am confused because I also read that The remaining 45& of our blood consists of hemogliboin — which is essentially transformed plant blood (chlorophll).
    So what does our blood consist of?

    COMMENT: Chlorophyl and hemoglobin are not the same. Hemoglobin is a very important molecule in red blood cells. It binds oxygen and transfers it to our tissues. The blood is made up of mostly plasma, which contains the white and red blood cells.

    The wheatgrass promotors say that the only difference between chlorophyll and hemoglobin is the magnesium versus iron core (for hemoglobin).

    That’s not the whole story. The center core of both molecules are porphins, a pigment. However the molecules are quite different.

  31. ken howe says:

    I really like wheatgrass juice. Sometimes I chew wheatgrasws like gum. The list of qualified people and institutions that support the use of wheatgrass juice is large and I hope this subject gets addressed fully. It cost me less then 50 cents a shot to grow and juice my own wheatgrass. I am big on brocolli, also. Are you saying that we can not use the enzymes of the plants we eat to digest them? I am comfused.

  32. Heather says:

    P.S. – To the people who are putting down this article about wheatgrass and confused about people who have had good experience with it I think that ok, maybe wheatgrass isn’t totally bad. But there is definitely better! Like fruit of course! I see a lot of things in life as “good better best.” For example, cooked food is good, raw wheatgrass is better and fruit is best! So I would say raw wheatgrass is better than eating a double double but eating organic apples or mangos or peaches is definitely better than wheatgrass.
    Another thing I’m thinking is that maybe it’s just all in their head because they have heard over and over how good wheatgrass is, so they tell themselves this is going to make me better and they expect to get better and have the attitude and believe they will get better or get the results they want from it. Hmmm the power of the mind…

  33. Malu says:

    Hi Frederic! Very good all this information! I believe in what you say, not just because YOU say, but from my onw experience with wheatgrass… and with my onw experience with 811 I must say that wheatgrass it´s absolutely unnecessary…
    And I do not like refined food, or at least avoid the them – because refined foods, which in the case are strained and centrifuged juices do not exist in nature, so for me it is not ideal food to be consumed. Wheatgrass continues complicating … very process to obtain the “NECTAR” … I prefer to stay with the simplicity that nature gives us. 🙂 Enjoy the simplicity!

  34. Colette says:

    About the comment made to Nancy Webster :
    I would appreciate to know why the “boost” is of a “wrong kind” ? Does this boost make you ill ? What were the bad consequences of taking wheatgrass juice, or the damages to your health ??

  35. Dana Stewart says:

    I have stopped mowing my lawns and juice the grass that grows around my house, it is yummy, sweet and I don’t care for science proving me right or wrong. It is free, abundant and much better in my opinion than a big mac and fries. I am perfect for me, I love everything I do for it an opportunity to live free to my own journey and hearts desires. I love the fact that people are promoting their way of living and helping others to achieve health and longevity away from disease and suffering. If that means eating a bit of raw choco now and again then I say yipee! x smiles Dana

  36. Colette says:

    About your comment to GREENOUICHE :
    Your nutritional informations are interesting but I personally think that it is much more easy to grow wheatgrass at home to get FRESH juice just before drinking it (with the advantages linked to the “freshness”) that growing Broccoli in the same kitchen (unless you have your own organic garden where broccoli grows), otherwise lots of its nutriments could be lost on the shelves)! So…

  37. Steve says:

    Why do some animals with one stomach eat grass when sick but not as a regular food? Many herbs taste terrible that have been used by the Chinese for 1000’s of years because they work. My life was saved by drinking the most vile bitter Chinese compound of many different herbs brewed into a tea, things I would never eat normally. To say no to wheat grass because of no scientific research would be like saying no to many herbal solutions that have worked for centuries. I can’t stand the taste of wheat grass for everyday use but as there is multiple institutes using wheat grass for years successfully, if I was very sick I would try it.

  38. Denny says:

    I have found wheat grass juice to be a benefit for me. Typically I eat 80% raw fruits, vegetables, and nuts all organic. One thing that always bothered me was excess gas from eating so much raw. My cousin started me raising wheat grass hydroponically and juicing it. That eliminated the gas (4oz/day) so it really works in that way for me. Is there other benefits? Each one must find out for himself. I have heard from those in the know that various individuals will experience some real relief from an ailment and these are as varied as the individuals trying it. My take on it is it can’t hurt to try it and see what it can do for you.
    Liking my wheatgrass juice,
    Denny
    Denny

  39. Dana Stewart says:

    My partner has recovered from cancer and found that mono food diet eg. just eating or juicing one fruit like watermelon and green grass juice was the best thing for him. He was REALLY sick and on deaths door. He is now more alive than ever before. I find there is so much advice, one must sit still and listen to ones own intuition. GOOD LUCK! PS. I think we all need to lighten up and have more fun, that is the best food of all!

  40. Krista says:

    My intuition says that *perhaps* the reason why wheatgrass tastes so nasty, is that it is only meant to be used in limited quantities, as a healing modality. If it IS indeed a source of highly concentrated nutrition, if it were really tasty, then one might literally OD on nutrition.

    But, from a scientific perspective, have a look at this diagram (http://www.juicing-for-health.com/images/chlorophyll-hemoglobin.jpg), showing that one of the main differences between chlorophyll and hemoglobin is the different element in the middle of it…we have iron; plants have magnesium. Conveniently enough, wheatgrass contains a great deal of iron in it…a full 315% MORE iron than broccoli juice, I might add. Perhaps nature intended for our bodies to utilize the chlorophyll and iron together, to build our blood? I don’t know, just a hunch.

    And our bodies CAN convert chlorophyll to hemoglobin, by the way….
    …as I just searched for a scientific study to back this up, and hmm….

    ….look what I found but none other than:

    THE ACTUAL RESEARCH PAPER THAT PROVES THAT CHLOROPHYLL BUILDS OUR BLOOD !!

    The conclusion of said paper is:

    "Chlorophyll markedly increases the speed of hemoglobin regeneration."

    For your reference, here is a link to the *actual* scientific study in its entirety:
    http://jp.physoc.org/content/86/4/388.full.pdf

    COMMENT: I don’t really like those animal studies where they take animals (rabbits) in this case, create disease artificially and try to see which element can solve it. Even the research paper says the work is not conclusive. Have you read it? They used crude chlorophyll, and also found it toxic in large quantities. My conclusions would be that this chlorophyll stimulates the bone marrow to produce blood, rather than being converted to hemoglobin (which is not blood anyway, only a protein in blood). The research paper also admits that possibility.

    …regeneration of hemoglobin is good, very good. Can anyone say why it would not be?

    COMMENT: A possibility to consider: why are you so concerned about "hemoglobin regeneration". Do you find that most people have problems with their hemoglobin? Would you go take a blood transfusion just because it increases your hemoglobin count? I personally try to look at each item as a whole. Using foods as medicines is a mistake, imo.

  41. Mark says:

    I agree with you on this one Fred – we should learn to trust our senses more – if it smells and tastes awful then chances are it’s not that good for us. To quote Dr. Douglas Graham as well – “If you can’t make a meal of it then it’s not food for humans”

  42. Aranka says:

    Hi Dan and Fred,

    I think it is brave of Fred to step up and say a few words about things that he thinks were promoted in the name of health, and yet, not much can be shown.
    I am certain, that you Dan, truly enjoy that shot of wheatgrass, and feel that you and your disposition is greatly benefiting from it, just as any person, coming home from the office or from the trip, and shooting an ounce of whiskey back. Perfectly knowing, that it will fix things up, make things look happier etc.
    And in moderation it could not be unhealthy…
    There are so many misleading info out there, we need ‘detective Fred’ to uncover some of those myths…and I really don’t think he was all that negative, he was subjective towards the taste of the grass…
    In peaceful contributing,

  43. Aranka says:

    Exactly the point:’what positive effects’ are we talking about? The only positive effect that Ann Wigmore has achieved is getting people off the junk, and steering them towards whole food nourishment. Thinking it is the grass, she could have been just as successful with romaine lettuce and bananas. In fact her menu contained a lot of tender greens (easily digestibles) and fruit…in her energy soup. The grass was the shopwindow, the unique, unusual piece of the game. Divert people’s attention from the pain, distract them, and offer them the whole foods, with a twist to capture their attention.

  44. Aranka says:

    Hi Dan,

    I just watched some of your YouTube videos. Very nice job..on both: the videos and on yourself! However, in defense of this chat about wheatgrass, I must say that you look AWESOME! and handsome, and humble and smart. What puzzles me is that you don’t see, that it was not just the grass, one ‘superfood’ that got you into this shape and form and feeling, but it is the sum of all the good things you are doing for your health. All green things, especially the tender, young greens will deliver the same oxygen help that you need for your strenuous workouts (although fruits will be your best bet). Your eyesight, your hair will continue to be gorgeous…but not because of wheatgrass only, it will be because of your excellent lifestyle.
    The real proof of the pudding is: watch a sick man take up only wheatgrass juice drinking, massively, daily, and yet continuing the old diet and lifestyle, as much as he can…. and absolutely no help in his condition. He continued to waste away, at a rapid pace. And yet, he kept hearing about Edie and others who healed themselves on grass, but he missed the point on the other important elements.
    I have seen this man die horribly and painfully. My heart was wrenched…
    Yes, you might say it might have been too late, too advanced case of the sickness, but in all fairness, all the others who go to health spas to get another lease on life, they will get those extra years perhaps, but only as long as they stay away from the junk, and not because of the grass only. Would you agree?

  45. Heather says:

    Thanks for your comments on what I wrote earlier Frederic about coconut water and plasma, blood, etc. That helps a lot. 🙂

  46. Heather says:

    Are there certain foods that are good for Hemoglobin?

  47. Christa says:

    Fredrick, you mentioned that raw foodists should supplement with vitmin B12, what are your thoughts on supplementing with iron? I have a four year old that I have just started to transition onto the raw food diet. Are there any particular nutrients that should be implemented to make sure that she is properly nourished? Any thoughts would be highly appreciated. I simply can’t find enough information on how to raise children raw. Thanks.

  48. Anthony says:

    Hey Fredric,

    What do you think of marine phytoplankton? Do you think that it is a superfood worth taking? I have heard some amazing benefits of marine phytoplakton, particularly for it’s richness in minerals. Are you a fan of algaes and sea vegetables?

    COMMENT: I’m not a fan of sea products, for various reasons. First, they are contaminated with heavy metals. The “organic” varieties only claim to be lower than alleged “safe” levels. Just check out the website of Maine Coast Sea Vegetables if you don’t believe me (www.seaveg.com), where I used to buy seaweed. Second, I don’t they they are human food. Then, phytoplankton is not a plant. It’s kinda like a bacteria, but certainly not a plant. So I don’t understand so called vegans recommending it. I can see more problems with it, but mainly I don’t believe the hype. You don’t need any “superfood”, just fruits and vegetables.

  49. ken says:

    You said, “Taking it plant enzymes will not benefit you in any way, as these enzymes are not compatible and are destroyed anyway in the stomach”. I always beleived that one of the benefits of eating raw is that you use the plants’ enzymes to digest the plants you are eating. Are you saying, in regards to the body using plant enzymes, that this is not true, that even with raw food your body must produce the enzymes to digest them?

    COMMENT: I know this idea has been promoted a lot, but it’s simply not supported by science. Enzymes in plants are designed for the plant’s needs. For example, there are enzymes in bananas that help transform the complex starch into simple sugars. Those plant enzymes are not the same as the digestive enzymes we produce. Also, keep in mind that eating raw foods, especially fruits, requires very few digestive enzymes because these foods are literally “pre-digested”. The starch has already been converted into simple sugars, that can be assimilated quickly. Also notice that all of the research on “plant enzymes” are done with high concentrations of factory-made enzymes. No doubt that this can have some effect on digestion, but I think it’s a much better idea to let your body do what it’s naturally designed to do, which is to eat and digest food with its own enzymes.

  50. Heather says:

    Fredrick we LOVE your articles!!!

  51. Brian says:

    As with many other recommendations, there are pro and there are con.

    Here is a pro: http://www.wheatgrassforum.com/showthread.php?t=14

    This is not to say that wheatgrass is a wonder cure, but it sure helps some people.

    COMMENT: I’m not saying it’s not helping some people Brian. But think about it… when someone goes to a health institute serving wheatgrass, they’re not just getting the wheatgrass. They’re giving up meat, dairy, all oils, all junk food and living on virtually no food for a week or two. It’s pretty close to a fast. So where the improvements actually come from? The wheatgrass juice, or the entire lifestyle? What essentially needs to be done is a double-blind study where some people ONLY get the wheatgrass, with no other improvement in their diet whatsoever. As for all these people who have incredible testimonials using wheatgrass, I ask myself again… is it just the wheatgrass, or everything else they changed in their diet?

  52. di says:

    Shalom Fred. Ok, I am from Panama. I was raised on all kinds of sabroso fruits. while living in the USA I did not eat very much fruits. A few years ago I started to read lots of books about fruits and the raw diet and follow the advised given. I am now a type two dibetic. What, where, and how did I go wrong. I stop being raw because I am afraid. But I truly want to go back because I have gained weight and feel terrible. I loved the way eating raw made me feel. So correct me what in the world I did wrong?? Help!!

  53. Lorrie says:

    Hey, just a comment regarding the Body Ecology Diet. I have been suffering from Candida for awhile. And I tried the Body Ecology Diet last year for about 3 months…and I did it religously. It was not an enjoyable experience and found it extremely difficult to maintain this type of eating, especially being vegetarian. I did notice a slight improvement in my symptoms, but this way of eating is not sustainable long term. To completely avoid such a completely nutritious food as fruit is completely absurd. I felt better eating as much fruit as I wanted than when I avoided it like the plague. I think BED works if you commit to it for a lifetime, but who wants to live a life of deprivation and possible nutritional deficiencies?!?

    I also tried the Gabriel Cousens’ version of the candida diet. Yikes! After a few weeks, I fled the scene as quickly as my legs would take me. Everytime I ate yet another nut-filled meal, red alarm bells kept clanging in my head…..too much fat, too much fat!!! In my opinion, this is not the path to wellness either.

    I also was a victim of the high-fat raw diet over the few years. I couldn’t understand why I was feeling worse and worse. When I completely backed off raw for awhile, I felt like a new person. And then I completely swore off the “raw gurus”. I didn’t believe in their hype anymore. In many ways I had been disillusioned by the raw food movement and I felt like a fool. And so I went back to eating some cooked food and kept my raw meals very, very simple. Green juice in the morning, followed by fruit and maybe a fruit smoothie. Green salad and maybe raw soup for lunch. More fruit and then a cooked supper. I feel better now than when I was eating almost all raw. I rarely eat nuts now. Maybe just a small handful a few times a week. But overall I feel great. Eating simply is the way. You don’t need a dehydrator or any other fancy gadget to make the perfect raw meal. All you need to do is pick it from a tree.

    Thank you Frederic for your courage and persistence to get the truth out there. Keep doing what you are doing because you are making a difference!!!! By the way, I hail from the other coast….Vancouver Island (although I am currently doing a year’s stint in Calgary – the summer is almost nonexistent here too. Sigh!!!)

    Thanks for listening to my rant. This is the first time I have posted but I couldn’t resist when I saw the BED comments. Cheers!!!

  54. thefutureisvegan says:

    @Malaine. I had a fatty (lots of avocados and oceans of olive oil) cooked vegan diet and had been warned off fruit for years by naturopaths due to candida. Last week I removed the fat and went raw and the candida was gone by the fourth day. For some people it can take longer, but I believe Doug Graham is right in his book “the 80/10/10 diet” about the cause being excess fat in the blood inhibiting the absorption of sugars, not “excess” sugar. I’m loving my bananas, papaya, kiwi fruit, and more!

    Go for it, you’ll be shocked . . . good luck :o)

  55. Robert Ross says:

    Hi Frederick,

    As a fellow author and teacher in the raw food movement focused on the real scientific evidence behind a raw food diet (www.RawFoodLife.com), I have been enjoying your viewpoints for a long time now, and following you closely. You have been truly brilliant and an inspiration for many – until now. I have seen similar anti-wheatgrass articles for years and am surprised that you chose to jump on that bandwagon as if it is something new, choosing to overlook the overwhelming anecdotal evidence supporting the benefits of wheatgrass juice. While it is true that many people make wild health claims about wheatgrass juice that are not supported scientifically, they do that about everything from yams to raw chocolate. So do doctors!!! In fact, about 80% of all medical procedures are unsupported by scientific studies (Congess’ Office of Technology Assessment concluded, ” . . . only 10 to 20 percent of all procedures currently used in medical practice have been shown to be efficacious by controlled trial”). That doesn’t mean 80% of all medical procedures are useless however. In addition, there are quite a few actual studies on wheatgrass that show it has amazing and interesting health benefits that I found in about 20 minutes on Google. Needless to say, these benefits will never be studied since there is no drug company that is going to spend millions to study something they cannot profit from (nor is any university going to get funded to do such a study). That doesn’t mean these benefits do not exist.

    Though much of the evidence is anecdotal, it is overwhelming. I taught at the Optimum Health Institute for years and personally experienced the benefits myself. Wheatgrass played an amazing role in dealing with my own health challenges when I first got into raw food. At OHI saw thousands of people use wheatgrass every day for years as a major part of a raw food based cleansing and healing program and watched many of their symptoms disappear, including cancer. A study in the Journal of Mutation Research, I believe, reported that chlorophyll has been proven to be a more effective antimutagen than vitamins A, C and E! Of course, wheatgrass is loaded with chlorophyll. I don’t think that wheatgrass can be ignored. Though it is important to emphasize that there is a scientific basis for a raw food lifestyle, it is just as important not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

    Thanks again for all your good work,
    Robert
    http://www.RawFoodLife.com

    COMMENT: Thanks for your comments Robert. I think your website is a great resource. I welcome your points. But don’t you think it would be wiser for wheatgrass promoters to stop making outrageous claims (such as 1 ounce of wheatgrass equals 2 pounds of fresh vegetables)?

  56. Chris says:

    It is interesting… how many people I see at the health food store asking for wheat grass but then those same people eat cooked food as a large part of their diet! I’ve been raw since 1999- 100% raw since 2001 and have maybe had two shots of wheatgrass in that time. If you search you tube “raw vegan myth” you will see what not taking wheatgrass can do to a person! By the way I LOVE those durians pictures- I have three per week! Here in the suburbs of New York they are not easy to get but they are a staple. I love what Fred says- he may seem “militant” to some, but they must realize how much more work it takes to tell the truth based on lots of genuine experience instead of “going with the popular myth flow of marketing”.

  57. Chris says:

    Hello THEFUTUREISVEGAN: I have seen the exact same thing happen. all the natural doctors where I live all seem to have the exact same approach to candida- take away fruit. But I have found with everyone that too much fat is the culprit. Also, I am curious if many of these natural doctors even know how much “sugar” or glucose is normal to have in your bloodsteam at any given time. I think that many of them say that everyone has “candadiasis”. If I plan on doing a marathon shrub-planting day for example where I want to dig a hundred holes then I may eat a few more bananas or mangoes that day (although I find that not eating is the best way to have the most energy in a day)- then would I not have more “sugar” floating around in my bloodstream? I mean- it’s like when a doctor says you have “unusual cellular activity” and then prescribes some drug to “control it” (This has happened to women I know who go for annual checkups and pap smears etc.) EVERY cell in your body is active at any given moment. They are just selling more drugs to you.

  58. Heather says:

    Chris, I went to YouTube and typed in raw vegan myth and many different videos came up. Will you please post more details about the specific video that you were talking about, about wheatgrass? Thanks!!

  59. Steve M. says:

    In response to your reply to Robert Ross: Are you against wheatgrass because of the claims? There are plenty of false claims about the raw food movement? Would you consider becoming anti-raw because of the false claims?

  60. Laura says:

    OK this makes sense to an extent. Our tongues like sweets. Which means it likes candy bars, milk chocolate, bubble gum, etc. It also likes salt. Which means burgers, hot dogs, pretzels, potato chips, french fries, etc. I could go on and on with this. My tongue never had a problem with the above foods. In fact it loved all of them and could eat much of them. So your logic here doesn’t quite work. Your tongue just doesn’t always know healthy and safe.

    COMMENT: Our natural instinct only works with UNprocessed, raw foods. You may "like" salt but that’s only because your body is designed to seek mineral-rich foods, not salt itself. Same for sugar, which is a desire for natural sugar in fruit, not refined sugar. The logic works only with unprocessed foods. So if something doesn’t taste good in its natural state, then it’s not a human food.

  61. Robert Ross says:

    Absolutely Frederick…but not just raw foodists! Doctors, nutritionists, dentists and even vets need to stop making outrageous claims! Did you know, for example, that there are a couple of clinical studies that proves that arthroscopic surgery doesn’t work – yet arthroscopic surgery remains one of the most common (and profitable) procedures. Same is true for most back surgeries. This isn’t a wheatgras promotor problem – it’s human nature. Poor communication is another reason for some of these “miscommunications.” In fact, an ounce of wheatgrass juice may be, speaking as a devil’s advocate, as nutritious as a pound of vegetables if you consider the other variables. Were thee vegetables cooked to death (killing most of the nutrients, genetically modified (for profits not nutrition), organic (up to 300% more nutritionally dense than commercial produce), etc. Under the right set of circumstances, where the organic wheatgrass juice is nutritionally dense and the individual has been eating raw for awhile and is thus absorbing nutrition more readily, the nutrition in the juice may well be ten times more absorbed and utilized by the raw foodist. That is though one of those studies that will never get funded!

    – Robert

  62. Laura says:

    The above post is for Ed. Sorry. I thought it would post just under his when I clicked Reply in his box. Oh well.

    Interesting info Fred.

    What is your take on fermented foods?
    And don’t enzymes diminish in our bodies as we age?

    If one has bloating in the abdomen isn’t that a sign of digestive issues?

  63. Robert Ross says:

    Chris, wheatgrass is just one tool in an arsenal of healing opportunities. I defend the idea of wheatgrass, in terms of not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, and I do decry making outrageous unsupported claims (come on folks, Google is just a click away – do your homework). When I first became raw in 1995, I was drinking 8 0z. of WJ a day, and getting amazing results with my health challenges. Today, I rarely drink it. It is a powerful cleanser and healing tool, and for people on a SAD diet probably much better than nothing at all, but it isn’t a magic bullet. We each have to find the tools that work best for us.

    – Robert
    http://www.RawFoodLife.com

  64. Monica says:

    Years ago, my 80 year old, mostly raw veggie/fruit eating grandfather tried some wheatgrass juice I gave to him, and he
    nearly thew it to the floor, saying I shouldn’t drink that stuff since it was very much a stimulant. He always discouraged ingesting anything with a high stimulant value saying it acted like a drug. He was pretty opinionated about these things; I think an instinct coming from 60 years as a vegetarian, and highly conscious human being.

  65. Heather says:

    Very interesting Monica, thanks for sharing

  66. merrilees says:

    Well you’ve certainly stimulated some debate with your wheatgrass article! For myself, I have been chewing grasses of all sorts since I was a kid, love the flavour and feel the benefits. However adding kale or any other cruciferous vegetable to a smoothy makes me gag. Each to her own!
    Someone mentioned dogs and cats eating their own faeces. In many years of working with animals, I have never seen a healthy animal eat its own faeces. Dogs will sometimes eat the droppings of vegetarian animals to get extra minerals. Rabbits, cattle etc chewing the cud does not count as cud is not faeces.

  67. Ed says:

    Laura, just like the scent industry has mastered the technique of duplicating natural scents from chemicals, the junk food industry has also mastered the know how of using refined sugar in all the junk food you mentioned. Our tongue can be fooled if you give it a harmful good tasting food similar to the ones coming directly from nature…..however….our stomach and our digestive track CANNOT be fooled and they have to deal with this in a unnatural ways……so when you taste a natural food such as wheatgrass juice that is when nature comes into play naturally, detects the bad taste and alarms the brain that this natural food is harmful and should not be swalloed, at this point one must reject the food as a baby does when parents force a bad food or medicine into the baby’s mouth……I hope that this explains and clicks with all of you who are ignoring your tongue and your body alarms….

  68. Heather says:

    Frederic, how much water do you think is necessary to drink on a close to 100% Raw Vegan/High Fruit Diet?

  69. Stacey says:

    Hello and thanks for all the wonderful information. I trust your knowledge and have followed a lot of your tips and recipes. I sort of follow the raw food diet, mostly from what I’ve read from Natalia Rose which emphasizes food combining and waiting three or more hours between meals. But recently I saw an ayurveda video about eating which said people should not snack in between meals because it doesn’t allow the fat storages to get used up. My guestion is twofold, what do you think about the idea of food combining – (there are four categories of food, starches, flesh, nuts and seed, and fruits. These categories shouldn’t be combined with each other but can all be combined with raw veggies. Fruits should always be eaten alone). The other guestion is whether we should eat after every three to four hours like the raw foodist suggest, or avoid snacking like the ayurveda people suggest. Thanks for everything.

  70. Jennifer says:

    hi Frederic

    thanks for the answer.. i checked out her website and she is one smokin’ hot raw vegan…… although i didn’t run across any articles where she talked about overcoming her bipolar disorder through raw veganism….

    i would really love to go off all these head meds that i am on… they have very dangerous side effects like they can cause diabetes and stuff

    hugs,
    Jennifer

  71. God's Son says:

    After reading most of you guys comments, I notice nobody leaves a comment when a person has said they or a friend/relative has been actually healed by Wheatgrass…why!?

  72. God's Son says:

    Also guys get off the institutionalize way of living and follow your heart.
    If Fredric wants to eat a whole tree including the stump and bark, It’s Fine!
    That works for him, and if he wants to promote that way of eating, Thats Also Fine!
    Thats the beauty of nature, one man’s food is another man’s poison and vice versa.
    Fred loves his work, i’m glad he still promotes nature, period! because we’ve all heard worse!

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