March 31

The Myth of Overeating on a Raw Food Diet

Filed under Raw Food Controversies by Frederic Patenaude

There is a myth currently being spread in the raw food movement , hurting people as it goes.

It is the myth of overeating.

The myth of overeating goes like this:

- The cause of all diseases is overeating

- Even when people eat raw, they still overeat, therefore that’s why they don’t do as great as they expected

- Try to eat less and less, and you will feel better. Eventually, you might even need to eat only tiny amounts of food, because your body is utilizing the calories better. Who knows, one day you might even become a breatharian, living on nothing but air?

Someone recently forwarded me a link from a popular raw food forum, where a raw-food author criticized my recent article on “Why I’m Mad at a Raw Food Movement.

The funny thing is that he didn’t want to say my name, but gave away the name of my book. Not so subtle…

In any case, the entire conversation revolved around overeating.

The author in question blamed me for promoting a diet that includes a lot of fruit, and said that under no circumstance should you eat 4 bananas in one meal, because that would be “overeating” and therefore “bad”.

Of course, nowhere in the article was “overeating” defined. So why not start there?

Here are several definitions I have found for overeating:

-    gluttony: eating to excess (personified as one of the deadly sins)

-    Overeating can refer either to eating too much at one time, or to eating too much on average.

-    Gluttony, the act of eating to excess (either to discomfort or more than required for proper health)

So basically, overeating is simply eating more than what the body needs to maintain proper health, or eating too much at one sitting, and therefore going over the digestive capabilities of the body.

So if everybody agrees that overeating is simply eating “too much”, then maybe we should figure out “how much” we need to eat, in order to know what’s overeating and what’s not.

Why Calories Are Important

The most important element we get from the foods we eat is energy, or calories. That comes in the form of carbohydrates, fats or protein.

Then of course our food provides us with the vitamins, minerals and other nutrients that we need.

The calorie concept is still extremely valid even when we analyze raw food nutrition. Why? Because it is a fairly accurate evaluation of the amount of food a person needs to eat every day to meet her needs.

A calorie is simply a unit of energy. Because our cells need simple sugars to live, there is certainly a certain amount of energy that we need to get from our food every day. If we go under this amount, the body will break down its own fat reserves to meet its needs. If we go over this amount, the body will accumulate fat reserves for the future.

It’s best if you think of calories as simply “energy”.

The amount of energy (calories) that a person needs every day will vary greatly according to these basic factors:

-    Height, weight and muscle mass (each pound of muscles requires an additional 25 calories per day to “maintain”)
–    Gender (men will generally need more calories than women)
–    Activity levels (athletes need more calories than sedentary persons)

There are many ways to calculate how many calories you need per day. You can use simple calculators (for example, at www.fitday.com) to figure out your basic metabolic rate (the number of calories you need every day, without any physical activity).

You can even go to a gym and step on a special machine that will measure your body fat, your muscle mass, and your basic metabolic rate.

So you will get a certain number, for example: 1500 calories per day.

That will be your minimum to maintain your weight and muscle mass. Then you will need to add on top of that any physical activity you have for the day, and add in calories for that.

An easy but imprecise way to figure this out is to simply take your ideal weight, and multiply it by 10.

That’s your basic rate.

Then add to that basic activities (walking, working, etc.), and fitness training (running, yoga, etc.)

The online fitness calculators can help you figure out these numbers.

In general, a fit and active woman who doesn’t need to lose any weight will want to eat around 2000 to 2500 calories per day.

A fit man will probably want to eat anywhere from 2500 to 3500 calories per day.

If you have three meals per day, that means each meal could be between 600 and 1500 calories each.

-    One banana is 100 calories.
–    One apple about 60.
–    One large mango: about 150 calories
–    One avocado: about 250 calories (mostly coming from fat)

So if “overeating” is simply eating more than your body needs, why would it be “overeating” to eat 8 bananas at one sitting?

Is there any logical reason to think that this might be “too much”, other than the irrational fear of fruit?

8 bananas gives you about 800 calories. If a person has three 800 calorie-meals per day, they will get 2400, which is about what the average person needs.

But can you digest 8 bananas at one sitting?

Although this may seem like a lot of food for someone new to the raw diet, the body has the ability to digest a fairly large amount of fruit. It’s easy to see from how light you feel, even after a fairly large meal, and how easy it is to digest it.

So if your body needs it… and you can digest it, is it overeating? Absolutely not.

Undereating is the Real Problem

There is certainly a problem with “overeating” in the raw food movement, but it’s not what our raw-food author thinks.

The real “overeating” problem is the excess of fat, in the form of avocados, nuts, seeds, oils — which almost every raw foodist eats in rather large quantities, because they are not used to eating appropriate amounts of fruits and vegetables.

As they are overeating on these foods, which the body only needs in small quantities, they are also “undereating” on the real nutrient-rich foods: water-rich fruits and vegetables.

What tends to happen is a pattern of “undereating” on small, insufficient meals of fruits and vegetables, followed by binges on nuts, seeds and fats to compensate on the lack of calories.

For example, a lot of raw foodists eat ridiculously small quantities of food in one sitting, leaving them malnourished and hungry.

For example: a small salad containing lettuce, dressings, and a few fruits.

A few hours later, they are hungry… but they’re also afraid of overeating, so they try to eat this ridiculous small meals again. Eventually, the caloric deficit becomes so great that they binge on a 3000-calorie meal to compensate.

Stop These Anorexic Behaviors!

With a normal, cooked, Standard American Diet, high in fat and salt, it doesn’t take a lot of food to reach your maximum number of calories per day.

In other words… the food doesn’t weigh a lot, but is rich in calories.

So because of that, we’ve been accustomed to exercise a certain restrain when it comes to eating, because we know from experience that eating a large amount of food leads to digestive problems and weight gain.

That’s because the food is dense in calories. But another problem with it is that it’s also has a low nutrient density. For the same amount of calories, you get fewer vitamin, minerals and anti-oxidant.

With fruits and vegetables, it’s completely different.

The food is low in calories, but nutrient dense.

A pound of food doesn’t contain a lot of calories, but for the same amount of calories, it contains more vitamins, minerals and other nutrients than any other food!

Therefore… you have to eat more! And at the same time, you are better nourished.

For example, let me show you how you could get 2000 calories on a Standard American Diet:

BREAKFAST:

–    3 medium pancakes, whole wheat
–    1 cup of orange juice
–    1 sliced pear
–    3 Tbs. fruit jam

LUNCH:

–    1 mixed salad
–    3 Tbs. salad dressing
–    1 roll
–    4 ounces tuna fish
–    1 apple

DINNER:

–    Plate of spaghetti with sauce
–    No dessert

Now let’s take a look at the “raw” equivalent, while keeping our fat percentage fairly low.

BREAKFAST:

–    Smoothie made with 6 medium bananas, 1 apple, 3 cups of spinach

LUNCH:

–    5  big mangoes eaten with celery and lettuce leaves

DINNER:

–    Large salad with ½ avocado, three large tomatoes, and an entire head of lettuce
–    2 cups of freshly squeezed orange juice

So… what’s your reaction when you compare the amount of food in the first, pretty Spartan menu, and the second raw, low-fat menu.

It’s a lot more food! In fact, most people when they look at the first menu, will think they will starve on that amount of food. There are no desserts and no snacks, and the amounts are pretty normal.

Yet on the second menu, most people will think they cannot possibly eat all of that!

But the amazing thing is that both menus provide the same number of calories… with important differences.

Let’s take a look at the nutritional analysis for the first menu:

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Now let’s take a look at the food from the second menu:

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Here are some important differences:

–    The raw menu contains 4.5 times the vitamin A, twice the vitamin B, almost twice the vitamin E, 50% more copper,
–    Both contain the same amount of calcium (which is still adequate), almost the same iron
–    The cooked menu contains twice the fat
–    The cooked menu contains an amazing 4172 mg. of sodium, compared to less than 200 on the raw menu (which isn’t completely accurate because I didn’t add in the celery). The official recommendations for health are now less than 1500 Mg. per day!

Overall, it is clear that the raw diet is more nutritious, and also more balanced. Actually, I was a little lazy and didn’t put all the greens in. The actual values are even higher than what’s being shown.

And an interesting fact: the raw diet contains more than twice the natural water, even without adding any liquids. With a lower sodium content, this makes the raw diet clearly more hydrating.

BOTTOM LINE:

-    Fruits and vegetables contain more nutrition PER CALORIE. However, it is still necessary to consume enough food to meet your needs.

-    Overeating is consuming more food than your body needs or your body can digest. If you eat enough to meet your needs, you won’t be overeating.

-    A big problem in the raw food movement is NOT overeating, but rather UNDEREATING fruits and vegetables and overeating concentrated fats.

By the way, if that seems like too much food for you, don’t worry. You can eat more often at first.

ANSWER TO QUESTIONS:

Doesn’t eating raw foods require fewer calories?

Because fruits and vegetables are easy to digest, they do require less energy (calories) digest. However, This difference is probably less than 5%. Because raw-foodists tend to have more energy, they will easily increase their exercise and activity by at least that much, so in the end they require the same amount of calories or more than the average person.

How many meals should you eat every day?

Ideally, 2 or 3. But initially, to make it easier to consume a large volume of fruits and vegetables, you can eat 4 to 5 times. Overtime, you’ll be able to make larger meals that will last you several hours, without any digestive issues.

Why did every experiment on life extension found that restricting caloric intake was the only was to lengthen life?

All experiments on caloric restriction were done on animals such as rats, who have a short lifespan. Laboratory rats are not fed their normal foods that they found in the wild, and are not as active as well. So feeding them 30% less of the toxic, artificial food they normally received extended their lives. The same would happen if you would cut by 30% the food intake of the average American.

However, eating a natural diet of fruits and vegetables is completely different. Eating an adequate amount of it will not shorten your lifespan.

The greatest proof that caloric restriction doesn’t work is the fact that almost all life extension specialists end up living an average or below average lifespan.

Is it a sin to eat at night or before going to bed?

Ideally, you want to leave a few hours from your last meal until your bedtime. However, it is not necessary to avoid eating at night completely. To improve your digestion, exercising before meals will do a lot more than avoiding eating at nighttime.

If for whatever reason, your schedule only allows you to have a dinner rather late in the day, you’ll still be fine. Just make sure that last meal is low in fat and easy to digest.

In any case, lunch should be the largest meal of the day.

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36 Responses to “The Myth of Overeating on a Raw Food Diet”

  1. Charles Long says:

    Personally, I would have a hard time eating a salad that large at one sitting. Or drinking a smoothie that size for breakfast.

  2. r holsem says:

    thank you, frederic, for the factual breakdown of calorie and nutrient content.
    i seldom see this type of comparison. i called a natural diet provider to ask about
    this very issue. i asked where the calories came from because both fruit and fat were minimized. i had looked at a daily meal schedule which appeared to have
    few calories. the reason i called is that i had no energy eating just vegetables all day.

    i hope you will follow up with another article in more detail which discusses the issue of metabolic efficiency that you touched on in the article. i have found that
    for me, meal size is critical in addition meal content.

  3. Aubbie says:

    My breakfast smoothies are about 2 quarts, give or take a cup. I have no problem consuming that in one sitting and it keeps me satisfied for a while.

  4. diane West says:

    I am a perfect example How a hih fruit diet works. I started out with the high fat raw way, and about four years into it I stared to gain weight ,get tired easier, didnt want to do my exersice which is soooo not like me,got candida,skin rashes, and digestive issues, so something told me to change something ,ecause that was no longer working for me, I came across Dr. doug graham, and started the 80 10 10 diet, and everything clicked in the first week.I quickly lost the weight again, rases went away, candida cleared up, etc, etc, I am sooooo happy and grateful, for all that are teaching the proper way to live, It is all so clear now, I even eat steamed veggies on occation if I so choose,as long as I keep it low fat Im good,but I know that raw is optimal, the proof is in the pudding .. Thanks Diane West

  5. Michael says:

    Three eight banana meals today would be 2400 calories, otherwise your logic is impeccable. Thanks for the guidance!

  6. Richard says:

    Its nothin’! I eat 25 bananas a day and two bunches of celery, one to two heads of lettuce, 24 ounces of grape tomatoes , a cucumber or two, more fruit for dinner,( a few oranges, mangoes, papaya, etc.) Its great and I love it! I only eat a little fat as in tahini,avocados etc. skipping some days a week.

  7. Aranka Shkolnikova says:

    I keep thinking of Luigi Cornaro and the Art of Living Long. He ate so little, and hardly any raw…cooked tomato soup and bread, and a bit of grape juice…hardly any variety. I think that is where people get the idea for CR diets.
    I wish I knew what is the connection here…I’m missing something.
    I love my fruits; I’m just having trouble mixing in a whole head of romaine into my smoothies…yuk!, but I do it and quickly gobble it down…not a pleasurable experience.

  8. Rayvin Nyte says:

    Thank Fredric. It’s nice to see a break down like that. I personally am a new Raw Foodist and I’m still eating high fat but I know I’ll cut that down eventually, but it sure helps the transition and is keeping me a Raw Vegan. One step at a time right?

    Thanks Again
    Rayvin

  9. Peter V says:

    I’ve been consuming raw green fruit smoothies for a year or so. 1.5 quarts in the a.m. before work, then have to eat 2-3 pieces of fruit mid-morning. I can’t seem to consume more smoothie than that in one sitting. Lunch is humourous – I have a mound of a salad – the size you put on the table for EVERYONE when you have guests over! My work associates find it remarkable how large (and georgeous!) my salads are. I hear ‘ya, putting that much lettuce in a smoothie does make it not so great tasting. May sound odd: munch on lettuce straight up. Some lettuce is decent tasting. Makes for an easy way of getting your greens in you. I find some romaine to be decent tasting by itself.

  10. Maya M says:

    Just start with more fruit and a small amount of greens, then as time goes on add more greens. Also I found spinage better tasting at the beginning. Experiment and ENJOY!!!!

  11. Beverley Hazlewood says:

    Thank you Frederic. I am new to the raw diet. I am tall and slim, perhaps a little underweight, and I do not want to get much smaller! I cannot afford great amounts of bananas, etc. Is say a small handful of blueberries and a pear, first in the a.m. – and later a couple of small bananas (lady-finger){I should say I live in sub-tropical QLD Australia}, later, 1/2 custard apple, an apple, and a small handful of grapes, later a couple of leaves of lettuce, a small piece of cucumber, a slice of capsicum, and a little amount of seed sprouts, later 1/2 carrot, small piece of beetroot, jucied, with the pulp, and some cooked sweet potato – sound alright?

  12. Anne Kirkpatrick says:

    I recently took one of those laser tests that measure your level of anti-oxidants. It’s supposed to be more accurate than a blood test. The results are measured like grades in school: A to E, A being the best. The woman administering the test said that most people test out at about 20,000 which is a D. She said she thought she was eating healthy (ie. drinking gogi juice, eating veggies) and was suprised to find that she tested out at 25,000. I tested out at 80,000, which was an A. I’ve only been raw for 5 months, but I contribute my A to the raw diet!!!!

  13. Pat says:

    I am not a raw foodist yet, not even a vegetarian yet. But, I have been thinking about it. I have a concern about the breakdown shown of the 2 diets. The raw food example only showed 5% of calories coming from protein. Is that enough to keep your muscles in good condition? It doesn’t sound like much, although I have looked and looked and cannot find anyone who agrees on the amount of protein you really need.

  14. Chris says:

    Standard FDA calorie charts apply to cooked food not “raw”. This caused much controversy, since you cannot compare calories to calories when you compare raw to cooked. One reason is that when you cook down a fruit or vegetable you take away the water content, thus concentrating the calories or energy content. Good raw vegan whole fruits and vegetables, and nuts and seeds are much more nutrient dense and that is why we require less of them. Frederic pointed out the main flaw in most people’s logic, however and that is that they mistakenly think that they have to eat more of the nuts and seeds, instead of the fruits and vegetables that contain so much more water by weight. He is totally right in recommending that you get most of your calories from fruits. You also have to drink less water when you eat fruit.

  15. Laura says:

    Aranka, I recommend using 1/2 head of greens rather than a whole head and to make your green smoothie a tasty and pleasurable experience. For example, 1/2 head or 6-8 kale leaves, 3 Lg. sweet ripe pears, a couple large handfuls fresh or frozen raspberries. Or try 1 small ripe pineapple, 2 bananas, 1/2 head kale or romaine or other favorite green. Peaches and banana and greens go very well together, too. I sometimes freeze a little bit of the fruits that go into the smoothie, so it comes out refreshingly cool and a little thicker, but the smoothie is not too frozen. I have noticed that romaine, and in particular kale blended with fruit gives me more energy than spinach or parsley, for example. Try it! I have a bunch of recipes for green smoothies if you need more variety.

  16. bulbultuk says:

    I sometimes have a fruit and vegetable diet on Sundays but each time i have a lot of fruit my tummy tends to loosen up a lot and makes me run to the loo at least six times a day. Though i can see a lot of accumulated muck thrown out, at the end of the day i feel lethargic and lazy.Is it due to the excess fibre intake or something else. I generally consume fruit till lunch and follow it with a Veg dinner containing mainly tomatoes,cucumber,capsicum,onion,radish,beetroot etc… Pl highlight the changes the body goes through with a change of diet such as this…bbt..

  17. bulbultuk says:

    As of now i am following a raw diet just one day per week and am afraid to increase the frequency for the fear of loose motions…..and the weakness they bring….bbt

  18. Andrew says:

    Most people have problems because they’re not eating enough, not eating too little, on a raw food diet. I put together this article about cravings that might help people: http://www.raw-food-health.net/CravingControl.html

  19. Martin Tornberg says:

    Tim VanOrden, a raw food athlete, claims that he eats around 2-3000 calories a day but burns 4-6000 calories a day because he exercises so much. (I may be off slightly on the exact numbers, but you get the idea.) He says this is because the body functions more efficiently on a raw food diet and therefore needs fewer calories. I have also noticed that I need fewer calories since going on a raw food diet a year-and-a-half ago – and more than just 5% fewer calories as you suggest above.

    I think the need to eat large quantities of fruit is related very much to how much exercise the individual is getting.

    Also, I think you are missing another thing entirely, which is that our food needs are also dictated by our lifestyle, including how much stress we have in our lives and how much we are using our minds. If one has a high-stress office job where one is using one’s mind all day long and burning through a lot of neurotransmitters, or if one is an athlete putting a lot of stress on one’s body, then one will need more protein and fat than someone who has less stress.

    A low fat, low protein diet of mostly fruit may be ideal from a physical standpoint, just like not putting a lot of stress on ourselves from a physical standpoint, but one needs to adjust one’s diet to one’s actual lifestyle, not to an ideal that one may not be living up to. If we were all exercising a lot, spending a lot of time outdoors, and not under a lot of stress, then I think your diet would be ideal for most people, but it seems to me that you are ignoring the fact that people are living under a wide variety of circumstances and engaging in a wide variety of lifestyles.

  20. Frederic says:

    @Martin:

    Caloric deficit is like sleep deficit. If you’re under what you need for a long period of time, eventually you’ll need to catch up. The body can still burn body fat reserves in the mean time.

    What happens with these people that claim to eat much less than they actually need, is that during this period of deficit they burn their body fat reserves. Then later without realizing it they’ll go through periods of eating MORE, to catch up.

    Also I don’t agree with the fact the mental work and stress increase the need for fats and proteins beyond the actual normal needs of the body.

    The brain uses sugar exclusively as fuel. Why do you think that a man using his mind all day will need more protein and fat instead?

    For example, I am someone who uses his mind all day long rather than an athlete who uses her body.

    I only exercise a mere 45-60 minutes per day. The rest of the time I use my brain.

    Yet, I don’t need more fat and protein. In fact, I do a lot better on an ADEQUATE fat diet, with lots of carbs.

  21. Grace says:

    Frederic thanks for this article. I enjoyed every bit of it. The other day I came across a raw food article about how over time the author’s needed a lot less food to live on because again, her body is better able to absorb nutrients. I’ve read many other articles/blogs from this author and for a long time I felt like I was always doing something ‘wrong’ and was wondering how I could find a way to ‘adopt’ her way of living. I realize that’s a little insane because in all honesty, we each have to find our own way provided that we’re working with ‘logical’ information. ANd not that it isn’t logical but it’s just not for me. She advocates eating two meals a day, early a.m and the last meal no later than 5pm, if you can work your way there(her last meal is at 2pm). But I mean, how is that realistic for the working person? and not that she isn’t working but for the average person, how is it possible to have a meal at 6/7am and the last at 2pm? I’m glad that works for her and that she’s found her bliss but time and time again, someone finds the fountain of youth, and everyone has to follow THAT WAY. You put it all in perspective Frederic. Thanks for that.

  22. Erin says:

    I tweeted you this correction. The USDA database has an average 7 inch banana, weighing in at 5.7 ounces before peeling, as contributing 149 calories, not 100.

  23. Frederic says:

    Most bananas sold in the USA average 100 calories per banana, but larger ones contain more calories yes. A lot of factor can influence the number of calories per banana… so I chose 100 as a round figure. 150 would be the MAX.

  24. Erin says:

    Oh, I don’t know. My bananas regularly meet or exceed those modest measurements. You’re not the first to use this 100 calorie figure, but I’ve always thought it low. In my experience, bananas tend to be rather calorific (and terrific, of course). :)

  25. Rae Foreman says:

    I’m confused about Robert Young’s contention that one should eat very little fruit because it contains so much sugar, which he claims feeds micro-organisms in the bloodstream and leads to candida yeast overgrowth, etc. He’s the microbiologist who wrote The pH Miracle. He claims fruits basically ferment in the bloodstream and this leads to acidosis. Also, I read that fructose is actually more fattening than sucrose since it doesn’t cause an insulin response. Please clarify.

  26. Frederic says:

    @Rae
    There’s nothing to be confused about. Only one theory can be true. Both theories cannot be true at the same time. Robert Young has completely missed the both on the role of fat in sugar-metabolism. On a low-fat diet, all of the nasty things he describes do not occur.

    Also… I have NEVER met a person who ate ONLY fruits and vegetables and was fat. Yet they ate plenty of fructose. So?

  27. Mike says:

    What about Dr. Michael Eades book, Protein power. He says that high amounts of carbs causes a large spike in insulin. This causes 4 major health problems. I do have Doug Graham’s book, 80/10/10. Are you not concerned about eating such a large quantity of carbs, even though they are the good ones? So how do you get around the insulin response to your large carb meals?

  28. Frederic says:

    @Mike:
    What would you expect from someone who wrote a book called “Protein Power.” Of course they’re going to say carbs are bad.
    He also happens to sell protein powder… what a coincidence?

    Stop believing everything you read! Especially if it comes from a man in a white coat Who promotes meat.

    On a low fat diet, there are no insulin spikes when eating fruit. I and others have measured our blood sugar after eating as many as 12 bananas in one meal and the blood sugar remains PERFECTLY STABLE.

    Read:

    – “The China Study”
    – “The Raw Secrets”
    – “Breaking the Food Seduction”
    – “Eat to Live”
    – “The 80-10-10 Diet”

  29. Vicky says:

    Mike, check out Steve Pavlina’s 30 day low fat raw food trial at http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2008/02/raw-food-diet/

    Although he ate a very high fruit diet, sometimes almost 20 bananas a day, his blood sugar remained very stable. So, what Frederic says is true. Sugary fruit does not cause the blood sugar imbalances that refined sugars and carbs do. There is a difference between simple carbs (from fruit) and refined carbs (from junk food).

    PS. I recommend that that you read through the whole trial that Steve did. It eventually convinced him to go 100% raw a few months later, and it convinced me to do the same. It’s a really good read, and even includes an audio interview with Roger Haeske.

  30. Martin Tornberg says:

    Are you sure that one needs to actually be on a low-fat diet to avoid the insulin spikes, or is it possible that they can be avoided through the combination of
    1) Eating large amounts of fruit only on an empty stomach and not after having eaten a high-fat meal or snack, and
    2) Having a clean system in which there is not a lot of excess fat clogging the arteries.

    That is, do you think someone can succeed on a diet whereby they eat a lot of fruit (but no fat) during the first half of the day, say before 2pm, and then after that fruit has been digested, say between 5 and 7pm, eat a high-fat meal, then avoid eating fruit (except maybe a very tiny amount) again for the next 12 hours? If not, why not?

    Thank you for all of your wonderful insights, for your time, and for the effort that you have put into this fabulous website.

  31. Martin Tornberg says:

    Also, could it be that large insulin spikes in response to eating a lot of high-fructose food could be largely because most people who eat fat have a fatty liver, but perhaps if one has been raw for a while and done a few liver cleanses, this is no longer a problem and then one can handle eating a lot of fruit at times even though one also eats a lot of fat at other times (provided that overall one is not over-eating in the sense of putting on lot of excess weight in the form of fat)?

  32. Neu says:

    I have been mostly raw (vegan) for a month and now I can understand what caloric deficit means, in the beggining I thought that I could live on 3 or 4 meals of 3, 4 pieces of fruit.

    Then I felt tired and attributed that to the lack of fat in my diet and had a large meal of nuts/ seeds which made me feel even worse (the body had to digest all that fat wich made me feel even more tired and with digestive problems).

    I now eat 4 or 5 meals consisting for example of 6 to 13 bananas or 5 to 9 cherimoyas or 3 to 6 mangoes or 1 kg of strawberries and I feel great and I have much more energy with this pleasurable diet!!

  33. Ulises says:

    Dear Fred:
    Thank you very much for your work.You are helping me a lot.I am a little confuse about use the calories to calculat6e how much we need to eat.I have read an article called:”Percent calories from xxx”:
    the latest nutritional hoax! and i ve understanded tha calories are not recomendable unit for human nutrtion.Plese, could you check the article and give to me another point of view.Thank you very much.Light,Love and Happyness.
    P.S: This the link to the article.http://www.ecologos.org/pcf.htm

  34. Natalija says:

    Dear Frederic,
    I feel very confused now about acid fruits issue. Can not remember where I read an information that oranges, lemons cause alkaline reaction in the body when they are digested. Was not that Butenko book..? So this is not true? You are talking so much about bananas, but almost all my friend can not eat them. Some have diarrhea, some get blocked sinuses, some get allergy on the skin. I buy organic bananas, but since me and my daughter included loads of the into the diet we started to have skin problems as well. I am just wondering what way make bananas from the place they grow to our stores? We live in Ireland.
    What about other fruits: apples, pears, grapes, plums? Are they good for replacement of bananas?

  35. Kelsey Taylor says:

    Natalija,

    I too once wonder about bananas because I know so many raw foodists who have issues with them. But im thinking its mostly due to the fat already in their diet. Once one swtiches to an 80/10/10 plan the body works itself around. Sometimes I feel like yelling at some high-fat raw ‘gurus’ because I dont know why we are even debating the issue. Fruits and vegetables are all around us and were meant for us to live off of. Theres no debating this- its gotta come from common sense people! hehe.

    Frederic,

    i just have a question about candida. I have chose to go low fat raw to heal it. How long does it usually take through fruits and vegetables to bring candida down to a stable level?

    And also, do you recommend people stay on the 80/10/10 plan in northern canada (winters are soooo cold) or is it still feasable to eat low fat cooked vegan foods in the winter?

  36. Jerry Hasselmeier says:

    To bubutuk, the loose bowel reactions you described are a natural cleansing reaction of the body, and if you stay all raw for awhile, will eventually go away.

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